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Re: The Hypothetical Seuqel

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:29 am
by emmjay
Kitsune Spirit wrote:I played a character in the WOD rpg that had a heaping portion of paranoia, which was pretty fun. :)
In WOD, paranoia is merely a natural and healthy response to the world around you. To quote Harry Dresden: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face."
Anyway, if a sequel happened (which we all know it won't), I'd like to see some of the girls who are in KS but receive little to no characterization get fleshed out. Not necessarily even be romance options, just get fleshed out. Miki, Suzu, Naomi, Natsume, Molly, etc. Maybe Rika and Saki could find a home, so to speak, in KS2.

Of course, the sequel could always be like this...

Re: The Hypothetical Seuqel

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:20 pm
by Xanatos
emmjay wrote:
Kitsune Spirit wrote:I played a character in the WOD rpg that had a heaping portion of paranoia, which was pretty fun. :)
In WOD, paranoia is merely a natural and healthy response to the world around you. To quote Harry Dresden: "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean there isn't an invisible demon about to eat your face."
Anyway, if a sequel happened (which we all know it won't), I'd like to see some of the girls who are in KS but receive little to no characterization get fleshed out. Not necessarily even be romance options, just get fleshed out. Miki, Suzu, Naomi, Natsume, Molly, etc. Maybe Rika and Saki could find a home, so to speak, in KS2.

Of course, the sequel could always be like this...
Or this...

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:20 pm
by pandaphil
Now don't be sexist. Women are as capable of crying manly tears as any guy. ;)

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:50 am
by Xanatos
pandaphil wrote:Now don't be sexist. Women are as capable of crying manly tears as any guy. ;)
Nope. :P

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:58 pm
by Banryu
I'm afraid I don't really see a point in discussing a 'hypothetical' sequel if it's been declared that one won't be made, or at least not in the forseeable future IF you're willing to be optimistic. There's no reason to expect that either 4LS will make a direct sequel, or allow any other developer/team to do so... it really just seems like wishful thinking.

If they DO decide to revisit Yamaku and the characters from 4LS, I'd prefer to simply wait and see what they come up with for themselves; call me unimaginative and boring if you will.
However, seeing as the fact that KS was created and finished at all is more or less a small miracle, I wouldn't really expect to see anything quite like this ever again. Even if 4LS DID decide to make another visual novel or other such game, I'd actually expect them to start with something original and entirely new... KS was based on a silly little sketch on the endpage of some doujin, right? I dunno, with a group of talents like 4LS, I get the feeling they'd rather move on to the next great thing they feel they can create.

Shizune would be disappointed with y'all's unrealistic expectations.

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:19 pm
by CaptPonyholder
Banryu wrote:I'm afraid I don't really see a point in discussing a 'hypothetical' sequel if it's been declared that one won't be made, or at least not in the forseeable future IF you're willing to be optimistic. There's no reason to expect that either 4LS will make a direct sequel, or allow any other developer/team to do so... it really just seems like wishful thinking.

If they DO decide to revisit Yamaku and the characters from 4LS, I'd prefer to simply wait and see what they come up with for themselves; call me unimaginative and boring if you will.
However, seeing as the fact that KS was created and finished at all is more or less a small miracle, I wouldn't really expect to see anything quite like this ever again. Even if 4LS DID decide to make another visual novel or other such game, I'd actually expect them to start with something original and entirely new... KS was based on a silly little sketch on the endpage of some doujin, right? I dunno, with a group of talents like 4LS, I get the feeling they'd rather move on to the next great thing they feel they can create.

Shizune would be disappointed with y'all's unrealistic expectations.

After the initial run of Kid Icarus and its GameBoy Sequel, the creator had said he would never create another Kid Icarus game. About 15 years later: Kid Icarus: Uprising was released for the 3DS.

I never take a "Never" at face-value.

Another example: George Lucas said there would never be another Star Wars movie. 2015, Star Wars 7 will be released.

Also, the sequel could be a game entirely different. Look at X-Com or BioShock: Infinite. Both are polar opposites of their original games. Bioshock was a tight corridor, little exploration and claustrophobic environments. Infinite is a wide-open game, allowing for huge areas to explore. XCom is now an FPS instead of a TBS. Things can be completely different.

Now to get back on topic: Who knows, if they were to create a sequel to Katawa Shoujo, it could take a different route all together. You could play as a Teacher new to Yamaku Academy, or some similiar type of institution. The goal would be to help your students along with absolutely no "love" scenes, unless it was with a fellow teacher/parent. Who knows, you could possibly adopt one of the kids if they were orphans.

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:27 pm
by Eraser35
actually the FPS XCOM got turned into a TPS and then I think it got canned but theres still Enemy Unknown

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:28 pm
by Xanatos
CaptPonyholder wrote:2015, Star Wars 7 will be released.
Not to mention 8 and 9 are planned too...At least. Yours is a good idea though. If I had the artistic ability, I might make something of that. :mrgreen:

And I'm thinking Banryu missed the point of the word "hypothetical"... :lol: Nobody's expecting anything at all but if there were no point in discussing things that might never be, that word wouldn't exist in the first place.

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:43 pm
by Oddball
Banryu wrote:I'm afraid I don't really see a point in discussing a 'hypothetical' sequel if it's been declared that one won't be made, or at least not in the forseeable future IF you're willing to be optimistic.
You don't see the point in having fun? Shame on you! Shame! That's all we're doing. Just shooting the breeze, throwing out ideas, seeing what people can come up with, that sort of thing.

Try it.
There's no reason to expect that either 4LS will make a direct sequel, or allow any other developer/team to do so... it really just seems like wishful thinking.
What's wrong with wishful thinking?
If they DO decide to revisit Yamaku and the characters from 4LS, I'd prefer to simply wait and see what they come up with for themselves; call me unimaginative and boring if you will.
Okay. I will.

You're unimaginative and boring and you dress funny.

(Yes, I know that's more than you said I can do, but sometimes in life you just have to reach for that extra little piece of the pie.)
Shizune would be disappointed with y'all's unrealistic expectations.
She would, but considering I don't agree with her on most things anyway, that's not really that big a deal to me.

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:19 am
by Xanatos
Oddball wrote:She would, but considering I don't agree with her on most things anyway, that's not really that big a deal to me.
Technically, she wouldn't, because nobody expects anything to come of any of this. :lol:

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:20 am
by pandaphil
Banryu wrote:I'm afraid I don't really see a point in discussing a 'hypothetical' sequel if it's been declared that one won't be made, or at least not in the forseeable future IF you're willing to be optimistic. There's no reason to expect that either 4LS will make a direct sequel, or allow any other developer/team to do so... it really just seems like wishful thinking.

If they DO decide to revisit Yamaku and the characters from 4LS, I'd prefer to simply wait and see what they come up with for themselves; call me unimaginative and boring if you will.
However, seeing as the fact that KS was created and finished at all is more or less a small miracle, I wouldn't really expect to see anything quite like this ever again. Even if 4LS DID decide to make another visual novel or other such game, I'd actually expect them to start with something original and entirely new... KS was based on a silly little sketch on the endpage of some doujin, right? I dunno, with a group of talents like 4LS, I get the feeling they'd rather move on to the next great thing they feel they can create.

Shizune would be disappointed with y'all's unrealistic expectations.
Awwww, no other reason than to just have fun, and use our imaginations. Honestly, its better than yet another "I HAZ TEH FEELZ!" thread isn't it? :D

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:04 am
by Banryu
Hah, looks like I pressed a lot of buttons with my little shpeal.
CaptPonyholder wrote: After the initial run of Kid Icarus and its GameBoy Sequel, the creator had said he would never create another Kid Icarus game. About 15 years later: Kid Icarus: Uprising was released for the 3DS.

I never take a "Never" at face-value.
As a rebuttal, I'd point out that all of your examples occurred quite a significant length of time later than the original from which they'd spawned... However, you do make a good point.

I'll admit that the extra material I've seen from the 4LS artists (Secret Santa arts and such) seem to suggest that 4LS themselves do have a bit of attachment to the world of Yamaku, and would like to see it fleshed out more, and I'd certainly welcome that.
Xanatos wrote:And I'm thinking Banryu missed the point of the word "hypothetical"... :lol: Nobody's expecting anything at all but if there were no point in discussing things that might never be, that word wouldn't exist in the first place.
Oddball wrote: You don't see the point in having fun? Shame on you! Shame! That's all we're doing. Just shooting the breeze, throwing out ideas, seeing what people can come up with, that sort of thing.

Try it.
I'm not really a 'hypothetical' kind of person-- I don't see the sense in imagining what could have been if you could get that one date with an unmarried Scarlet Johansson, or what other 3rd party characters would be cool in Brawl, etc. etc.-- But, I sometimes forget that that's my opinion and not necessarily a correct outlook. Forgive me for attempting to impose my views on the thread. *bows*

Still, upon further consideration, it's not like there's not still room for hypotheses on events that still have a probability of occurring, and admittedly a continuation of the Yamaku universe isn't so far out of the realm of possibility as... other things. So yeah, I'll take it back.

But I'd still rather keep my expectations low, so I'm not disappointed if no sequel happens, if it's all the same to y'allz. >3>
pandaphil wrote:
Banryu wrote:boring ranty stuff
Awwww, no other reason than to just have fun, and use our imaginations. Honestly, its better than yet another "I HAZ TEH FEELZ!" thread isn't it? :D
True enough I suppose.
Oddball wrote:You're unimaginative and boring and you dress funny.
I won't disagree with the first two but you have no evidence of the lattermost. *w*

Sorry for dragging the thread so far off-topic.

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:52 pm
by Xanatos
Banryu wrote:But I'd still rather keep my expectations low...
Everyone's expectations are low or nil. That's why it's hypothetical. :P

I do recall a post many months ago from a 4LS member vaguely hinting at something...I think it was crud. Didn't seem KS-related though.

Re: The Hypothetical Sequel

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:22 pm
by udscbt
Xanatos wrote:
Banryu wrote:But I'd still rather keep my expectations low...
Everyone's expectations are low or nil. That's why it's hypothetical. :P

I do recall a post many months ago from a 4LS member vaguely hinting at something...I think it was crud. Didn't seem KS-related though.
Well, in the blog post for the anniversary Aura wrote that they wanted to work on new projects and try to release them this year, anyway nothing to do with KS.