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Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:30 am
by Shades of gray
feh, I have impressive strength (especially impressive since I'm thin, and look weak) and after you reach a certain point, it becomes impossible to "tone down" the strength used. learning to control the output of strength you use is difficult, so i can understand Wenchies problems.

lemme put it this way, my punches will put someone "larger" then me down quickly, a single kick from me can kill (according to the gym trainers i've had) if I aim at the head or chest.

I blame my Scottish heritage.

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:34 am
by 3-----------------20
Shades of gray wrote:feh, I have impressive strength (especially impressive since I'm thin, and look weak) and after you reach a certain point, it becomes impossible to "tone down" the strength used. learning to control the output of strength you use is difficult, so i can understand Wenchies problems.

lemme put it this way, my punches will put someone "larger" then me down quickly, a single kick from me can kill (according to the gym trainers i've had) if I aim at the head or chest.

I blame my Scottish heritage.
Do you happen to be hypoglycemic?

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:50 pm
by Silentcook
Please don't wander too much into the wilderness of derail, people.

It's a deadly country.

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:00 pm
by Goldilurks
I guess WW's tales of boyfriend abuse aren't on topic unless said boyfriend also, like Hisao, has a heart condition. And if he doesn't have a heart problem after all he's been through then he is one lucky son of a bitch. :wink:

More on topic, though, I'm curious as to how the artists will draw Hisao's chest scar. Any images you guys using as references, Silentcook?

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:10 pm
by Aura
It's just a standard open heart surgery scar, a single vertical slash down his chest. Here's robin williams' nipples.

Image

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:22 pm
by Caesius
Looks like something popped out of his chest and the doctor on the Nostromo figured "no problem lol"

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:39 pm
by Suriko
Goldilurks wrote:I guess WW's tales of boyfriend abuse aren't on topic unless said boyfriend also, like Hisao, has a heart condition. And if he doesn't have a heart problem after all he's been through then he is one lucky son of a bitch. :wink:

More on topic, though, I'm curious as to how the artists will draw Hisao's chest scar. Any images you guys using as references, Silentcook?
The specific image we're using is http://www.gamesanityblog.com/images/gdsurge3.jpg

It's a standard scar from bypass surgery, with a line down the middle of the chest which doctors use to access the inside when keyhole surgery isn't used.

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:32 am
by Guest
So this is where Iwanako ripped Hisao's heart out of his chest.
Hanako's gonna like that.

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:06 am
by ContinualNaba
Suriko wrote:
Goldilurks wrote:I guess WW's tales of boyfriend abuse aren't on topic unless said boyfriend also, like Hisao, has a heart condition. And if he doesn't have a heart problem after all he's been through then he is one lucky son of a bitch. :wink:

More on topic, though, I'm curious as to how the artists will draw Hisao's chest scar. Any images you guys using as references, Silentcook?
The specific image we're using is http://www.gamesanityblog.com/images/gdsurge3.jpg

It's a standard scar from bypass surgery, with a line down the middle of the chest which doctors use to access the inside when keyhole surgery isn't used.
÷\

In all seriousness, what in particular is the lower scar for? I can imagine slicing open the chest to get at the bits, but that tiny little thing?

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:46 am
by Deimos
ContinualNaba wrote:
Suriko wrote: The specific image we're using is http://www.gamesanityblog.com/images/gdsurge3.jpg

It's a standard scar from bypass surgery, with a line down the middle of the chest which doctors use to access the inside when keyhole surgery isn't used.
÷\

In all seriousness, what in particular is the lower scar for? I can imagine slicing open the chest to get at the bits, but that tiny little thing?
The picture depicts bypass surgery and as such I venture to guess that no suitable bypass grafts were found in the thorax or, at least, in insufficient numbers and consequently the surgeons had to 'look elsewhere' to acquire them.

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:49 pm
by Silentcook
ContinualNaba wrote:In all seriousness, what in particular is the lower scar for? I can imagine slicing open the chest to get at the bits, but that tiny little thing?
That could have been caused by many things. My experience with chest-cracking is limited and more than 10 years old, but if I had to, I'd bet on residue from intraoperatorily-placed chest drainage tubes or a PEG. I am not being dramatic: you don't "slice" chests open for this kind of thing, you crack them.

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:22 am
by ContinualNaba
Ah, I always had wondered how surgeons got at the heart and lungs with all them bones and other hard, tricky-to-saw things. Always assumed they exposed the meaty bits and bludgeoned them into function.
Edit: No, wait, I don't know nearly enough about Long QT sundrome and ventrical fibriliation to ask questions like that. Don't think a transplant would help.

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:42 pm
by Warwick
Silentcook wrote:
ContinualNaba wrote:In all seriousness, what in particular is the lower scar for? I can imagine slicing open the chest to get at the bits, but that tiny little thing?
That could have been caused by many things. My experience with chest-cracking is limited and more than 10 years old, but if I had to, I'd bet on residue from intraoperatorily-placed chest drainage tubes or a PEG. I am not being dramatic: you don't "slice" chests open for this kind of thing, you crack them.
The one video I saw of bypass surgery involved what looked and sounded like a rotary saw going BZZZZZT right through the sternum. Was pretty exhilarating, given how quickly it went through the bone. Afterwards they just stapled the bone back together, if I'm not mistaken.

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:35 pm
by Wrench Wench
Staples sounds about right. You'd be amazed the ways you can put the human body back together. Staples, glue, string even duck tape will do it and you can actually expect them to recover assuming it doesn't kill them by some other means.

Re: Hisao's heart condition

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:03 pm
by Shades of gray
don't forget spray on second skin stuff. had it used on my largest scar just after surgery , stung like a bitch when it was put on, itched like hell for 2 days.

but god, it speeds up the healing process by a huge amount.