Re: Shizune's "Good" Ending -- Sad or Happy?
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:01 am
I'm somewhat inclined to take the interpretation that Jigoro and Hideaki are actually quite normal, to some extent.
Jigoro's a little eccentric, granted, but he's clearly a successful and wealthy businessman (and likely single father). As I'm fond of pointing out, his first impression of Hisao is pretty bad.
Strike 1: The late addition of a boy coming to visit - that sets off alarm bells for any father
Strike 2: The fishing trip. While Hisao takes only a small part of the blame for this one, his attempts to justify the group's behavior fail to win him any points
Strike 3: The first several days, Hisao's sleeping in past noon. That rarely reflects well on a person. Could be health-related, admitted.
Strike 4: When they (finally) meet, Hisao is rather lippy and evasive. Jigoro overreacts, but there are several explanations (to include brythain's proposed trolling)
Strike 5: Hisao sits in the dadchair. You don't sit in the dadchair.
(Probably more strikes, but those are the big ones)
In spite of this, it's worth noting that Jigoro doesn't forbid the relationship, or any similar dramatic actions associated with unreasonable overbearing parents. In fact, his fourth appearance is him arguably taking to heart one of the bits of criticism Hisao levelled at him in "Confrontation".
So, right off the bat, Hisao earns about 90% of the abuse that Jigoro slings at him.
As for Misha and Jigoro? That's a bit more complex. In "Family Plot," it seems to be Misha, of her own initiative, that defuses the escalating tensions between Hisao and Jigoro, but, almost immediately after, she's laughing as if to say that Hisao and Jigoro put on a good show. Most likely explanations? Either Misha's an idiot (doubtful) or she's somewhat in on the joke.
"Pangrammatic Window" is a little trickier. Jigoro's irritated, and Misha does present several irritating quirks to compound the issue into a positive feedback loop. On the other hand, "Use-Mention Distinction" presents the idea that Jigoro is actually kind of fond of Misha, and almost considers her part of the family. This presents the possibility of being "in on the joke". Interestingly enough, it could be a ruse specifically to allow Shizune and Hisao some alone time (a stretch perhaps, but not to be dismissed outright).
Regarding the eggshell omelette? Jigoro's definitely a dedicated outdoorsman. KS isn't the first time I'd heard of eggs being cooked shells and all. It could be normal for Jigoro; it could be something he's familiar with but doesn't do often, intended to troll Hisao; for that matter, it could just be that Jigoro's a crappy chef. Frankly, given that eggshell eggs are a legitimate thing people eat, especially dedicated outdoorsmen, it becomes very hard to interpret the omelette as some sort of inhospitable gesture.
As for Hideaki, have you ever had to spend time hanging out with your older sister's friends? Or worse, one-on-one with her boyfriend? It's usually very awkward and uncomfortable unless you find something in common, and you're rarely even motivated to try finding that. Especially when her boyfriend is as boring as Hisao.
And the age gap is real. When I interact an 18-year-old these days, he's taking about how he and his based basic bae go around dabbing thots because they're so extra. Naturally, response is along the lines of "And a bip bop skiddlywop to you too, daddio."
While it's only a couple years for Hisao and Hideaki, it's significant.
As for Hideaki's fashion taste, Hisao's not one to judge. Shizune's route especially hammers in that Hisao's got no fashion sense. For all we know, Hideaki's style could be the height of fashion in his social group (which really isn't much of a stretch, considering we're talking about urban Japan).
Jigoro's a little eccentric, granted, but he's clearly a successful and wealthy businessman (and likely single father). As I'm fond of pointing out, his first impression of Hisao is pretty bad.
Strike 1: The late addition of a boy coming to visit - that sets off alarm bells for any father
Strike 2: The fishing trip. While Hisao takes only a small part of the blame for this one, his attempts to justify the group's behavior fail to win him any points
Strike 3: The first several days, Hisao's sleeping in past noon. That rarely reflects well on a person. Could be health-related, admitted.
Strike 4: When they (finally) meet, Hisao is rather lippy and evasive. Jigoro overreacts, but there are several explanations (to include brythain's proposed trolling)
Strike 5: Hisao sits in the dadchair. You don't sit in the dadchair.
(Probably more strikes, but those are the big ones)
In spite of this, it's worth noting that Jigoro doesn't forbid the relationship, or any similar dramatic actions associated with unreasonable overbearing parents. In fact, his fourth appearance is him arguably taking to heart one of the bits of criticism Hisao levelled at him in "Confrontation".
So, right off the bat, Hisao earns about 90% of the abuse that Jigoro slings at him.
As for Misha and Jigoro? That's a bit more complex. In "Family Plot," it seems to be Misha, of her own initiative, that defuses the escalating tensions between Hisao and Jigoro, but, almost immediately after, she's laughing as if to say that Hisao and Jigoro put on a good show. Most likely explanations? Either Misha's an idiot (doubtful) or she's somewhat in on the joke.
"Pangrammatic Window" is a little trickier. Jigoro's irritated, and Misha does present several irritating quirks to compound the issue into a positive feedback loop. On the other hand, "Use-Mention Distinction" presents the idea that Jigoro is actually kind of fond of Misha, and almost considers her part of the family. This presents the possibility of being "in on the joke". Interestingly enough, it could be a ruse specifically to allow Shizune and Hisao some alone time (a stretch perhaps, but not to be dismissed outright).
Regarding the eggshell omelette? Jigoro's definitely a dedicated outdoorsman. KS isn't the first time I'd heard of eggs being cooked shells and all. It could be normal for Jigoro; it could be something he's familiar with but doesn't do often, intended to troll Hisao; for that matter, it could just be that Jigoro's a crappy chef. Frankly, given that eggshell eggs are a legitimate thing people eat, especially dedicated outdoorsmen, it becomes very hard to interpret the omelette as some sort of inhospitable gesture.
As for Hideaki, have you ever had to spend time hanging out with your older sister's friends? Or worse, one-on-one with her boyfriend? It's usually very awkward and uncomfortable unless you find something in common, and you're rarely even motivated to try finding that. Especially when her boyfriend is as boring as Hisao.
And the age gap is real. When I interact an 18-year-old these days, he's taking about how he and his based basic bae go around dabbing thots because they're so extra. Naturally, response is along the lines of "And a bip bop skiddlywop to you too, daddio."
While it's only a couple years for Hisao and Hideaki, it's significant.
As for Hideaki's fashion taste, Hisao's not one to judge. Shizune's route especially hammers in that Hisao's got no fashion sense. For all we know, Hideaki's style could be the height of fashion in his social group (which really isn't much of a stretch, considering we're talking about urban Japan).