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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:23 pm

Dylan wrote:How much did the writers interact with the other writers in writing their own paths? I know apparently Suriko cowrote Hanako's path, but other than that, did each writer pretty much come up with every idea and line of dialogue for their respective paths?
Of course we talked a whole lot between ourselves, feedback and brainstorming and whatnot. Actual work mostly is down to single writers however.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:31 pm

Why did you decide to go for an anal scene? Were you afraid it might be received poorly or seen as being in poor taste? Was there any arguement over its inclusion? Do you feel it was really necessary?

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Re: Ask!

Post by Brogurt » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:35 pm

Aura wrote:
Brogurt wrote:Is there any chance we could get some summaries of the larger scrapped story arcs and such, now that the game has been released?
And excuse my newfriendlyness, but isn't there a subforum only visible to devs where a lot of these types of things are posted? If so, would it be hard to set it so that anyone can view it?
No, yes and no.
>There is a forum for that
>It wouldn't be hard to make it public
>But it's not going to happen
You make me sad.
For what reason is it such a can of worms? Just the writers not wanting that stuff to be seen? I guess they can do whatever they want with their own material, but this seems a little asinine.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:41 pm

First off, thank you so much for the work that went into this (you broke 4chan ffs)

Few questions

1. Hanakos ending, while I understand was a bit short, people seem to be getting misconceptions about Hanako's state at the end of the game. Some think she is better off at the end of Lilly's story where she is seen independant. I know that Lilly's route ends not only later than Hanako's but with her in different circumstances to develop, but had you known this misconception would have arisen would Hanako's epilogue have been given a Lilly style post-credits scene? I for one would have loved it (She was my favourite by a hair over Lilly).

2. Why was Emi the only one who got 2 FMVs?

3. Lilly + Lee Sin, the Blind Monk (League of Legends), has been popping up in threads discussing this, what's your take?

4. Did you intentionally make Hisao into a total DICK at the worst points for plot conveience, an example being the post h-scene with Hanako in the morning after, I was watching for him to say it but he does the WORST possible thing...(still, glad the route ended with the park CG). Another example being Rin's route "I dunno", you know the bit.

And a general comment or two

Great stuff trying to express Lilly's view toward Hisao through the raunchier scenes, it REALLY takes a different spin on things to what people would have thought, "See as I see" and yes I mean things like the blindfold scene. It's came across well enough to be all about the emotion going on. Hanako's bad end was perhaps the most heart crushing scene in the entire game, it actually felt like she was more berating the PLAYER than Hisao...

All in all, great work.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:47 pm

Brogurt wrote:
Aura wrote:
Brogurt wrote:Is there any chance we could get some summaries of the larger scrapped story arcs and such, now that the game has been released?
And excuse my newfriendlyness, but isn't there a subforum only visible to devs where a lot of these types of things are posted? If so, would it be hard to set it so that anyone can view it?
No, yes and no.
>There is a forum for that
>It wouldn't be hard to make it public
>But it's not going to happen
You make me sad.
For what reason is it such a can of worms? Just the writers not wanting that stuff to be seen? I guess they can do whatever they want with their own material, but this seems a little asinine.
So let's say you are eating at a fancy restaurant, a nice three-course dinner. After the dinner you ask the staff if you also could eat the trash and scraps that were the byproduct of the meal you just ate.

Nope.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Burial_By_Fire » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:50 pm

In the bad end it's mentioned that Misha being with Hisao was the first time she was with a man. So has she been with a woman? If so was she ever with Shizune? Is Misha, at heart not by action, a lesbian or bisexual?

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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:53 pm

Guest wrote:
1. Hanakos ending, while I understand was a bit short, people seem to be getting misconceptions about Hanako's state at the end of the game. Some think she is better off at the end of Lilly's story where she is seen independant. I know that Lilly's route ends not only later than Hanako's but with her in different circumstances to develop, but had you known this misconception would have arisen would Hanako's epilogue have been given a Lilly style post-credits scene? I for one would have loved it (She was my favourite by a hair over Lilly).

2. Why was Emi the only one who got 2 FMVs?

3. Lilly + Lee Sin, the Blind Monk (League of Legends), has been popping up in threads discussing this, what's your take?

4. Did you intentionally make Hisao into a total DICK at the worst points for plot conveience, an example being the post h-scene with Hanako in the morning after, I was watching for him to say it but he does the WORST possible thing...(still, glad the route ended with the park CG). Another example being Rin's route "I dunno", you know the bit.
1. The fact that the last scene of Lilly's story is after the credit roll means absolutely nothing. It's quite possible that Hanako is better off in Lilly's path than in her own good end. I don't see the problem with that.

2. What? Emi has only 1, just like everyone else.

3. I do not understand what you're trying to ask.

4. Hisao's personality is what it is. He's not acting like a dick out of some writer spite.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:53 pm

Burial_By_Fire wrote:In the bad end it's mentioned that Misha being with Hisao was the first time she was with a man. So has she been with a woman? If so was she ever with Shizune? Is Misha, at heart not by action, a lesbian or bisexual?
We might never find out.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Hanako-San » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:59 pm

Aura wrote:Our army of teenage girl artists couldn't draw penises without fits of giggling.
Why do you have an army of teenage girl artists drawing porn in the first place?

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Re: Ask!

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:00 pm

Aura wrote:
Guest wrote:
1. Hanakos ending, while I understand was a bit short, people seem to be getting misconceptions about Hanako's state at the end of the game. Some think she is better off at the end of Lilly's story where she is seen independant. I know that Lilly's route ends not only later than Hanako's but with her in different circumstances to develop, but had you known this misconception would have arisen would Hanako's epilogue have been given a Lilly style post-credits scene? I for one would have loved it (She was my favourite by a hair over Lilly).

2. Why was Emi the only one who got 2 FMVs?

3. Lilly + Lee Sin, the Blind Monk (League of Legends), has been popping up in threads discussing this, what's your take?

4. Did you intentionally make Hisao into a total DICK at the worst points for plot conveience, an example being the post h-scene with Hanako in the morning after, I was watching for him to say it but he does the WORST possible thing...(still, glad the route ended with the park CG). Another example being Rin's route "I dunno", you know the bit.
1. The fact that the last scene of Lilly's story is after the credit roll means absolutely nothing. It's quite possible that Hanako is better off in Lilly's path than in her own good end. I don't see the problem with that.

2. What? Emi has only 1, just like everyone else.

3. I do not understand what you're trying to ask.

4. Hisao's personality is what it is. He's not acting like a dick out of some writer spite.

1. I know that, I mean people don't see Hanako weeks on after Lilly returns, while in Lilly's route timewise it progresses far past it and she's had more time. The comment about post credits was just a way to say, extending the epilogue a bit so we can see that time skip. There is a split in the fans where people believe Hanako, at the point in time where Lilly's route finishes, would be better in her own route's ending, than in Lilly's, obviously because she found her partner.

2. Whoops..for some reason in my head Emi had 2, my bad

3. Nevermind, was a silly question of opinion about a fan pairing :P

4. He certainly had alot of people going

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Re: Ask!

Post by Hanako-San » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:03 pm

Guest wrote:4. He certainly had alot of people going
Bishies get all the girls. That's one of the strange mysteries of life.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:04 pm

How do i fix depression caused by this game?

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Re: Ask!

Post by Guest » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:05 pm

Hanako-San wrote:
Guest wrote:4. He certainly had alot of people going
Bishies get all the girls. That's one of the strange mysteries of life.
I don't mean that, I mean in how he seemed to miss the most obvious things to do. Everyone was waitin for him to say those 3 words to Hanako in her room the morning after their H-Scene...it takes Hanako breaking down in the park before he gets his act together. My jaw dropped when he didn't do it despite Hanako obviously waiting for it.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Deimos » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:17 pm

I suppose that no words of mine can stand next to the sense of accomplishment that you surely must feel for finishing this wonderful project. Nevertheless, I feel the need to voice my gratitude for Katawa Shoujo to you.

My KS experience was not limited to the hours of actual playing time but also encompass this very forum, the blog, the art that has been published on this site, yet perhaps most importantly, the time you made me think about this little world you tried to bring to life. Consequently, I want to thank you for making me care and allowing other to do so as well.

The topic has been rarely brought up, but I believe this to be an occasion where it might be necessary. I want you to know that I did give to charity with Katawa Shoujo in mind. I won’t tell any numbers or organizations because it would degenerate the message I trying to convey. You have caused an effect – a beneficial one I might say.

If there were a stage where all of 4Leaf Studios and whoever contributed meaningfully would bow to their audience I would throw a rose on it while slowly clapping savouring all the delightful memories I can recall.


As for my question: Is any of you allergic to roses? :)
Ahh, Morticia? I would die for her. I would kill for her. Either way, what bliss.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Brogurt » Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:33 pm

Aura wrote:The fact that the last scene of Lilly's story is after the credit roll means absolutely nothing.
It set a precedent. The devs are willing and able to put story elements after the credits, with a very large amount of time in between them.
Aura wrote:It's quite possible that Hanako is better off in Lilly's path than in her own good end.
Do you mean chronologically (for example, X amount of days after the game begins) or comparatively (for example, at the very end of a route). The latter is acceptable, the former... much less so.
Aura wrote:I don't see the problem with that.
Some of us do. Mostly because there appears to be potential for Hanako to be made happier than she ends up in Lilly's route, but this is never actually realized.

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