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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by dewelar » Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:16 pm

I think one thing that could stand some clarification is the "Status" bit. Right now, we've only got "complete" (obvious), "ongoing", and "abandoned", and no indication of what differentiates the last two. Is "abandoned" only the stories where the author specifically stated that the story wasn't being continued (e.g., Numb's Miki route)? Or is there some interval without an update that shifts something from one to the other? Should something like Tomorrow's Doom go in the "abandoned" bin because it hasn't updated in 18 months, or should there perhaps be some separate status ("in Limbo"?) for authors who are still at least quasi-active on the boards?
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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by brythain » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:12 am

Hmm, so far most of our solutions would seem to require 'off-board' support (e.g. BlankMage's Google doc or Mirage_GSM's Excel sheet).

There's a tiny bit of discomfort on my part about it being off-board, but that would disappear completely if a moderator had primary control of the central document and granted permission to the Librarian and assistant librarians to edit, as well as permission to back up off-site. This allows long-term survival until whenever the board itself is no longer around.

For status setting, IIRC we had a sort of discussion about that some time back. I think what might be helpful would be 'Complete' and 'Abandoned' (i.e. two ends of the spectrum of 'He's Dead, Jim') plus 'In Progress' ('WIP') and 'Hiatus > One Year' ('H+1'). That last is a sort of arbitrary benchmark, and it defines 'In Progress' essentially as 'no news for up to a year'. 'Hiatus' can be modified to 'H+2', 'H+3' etc if so required. 'Abandoned' can likewise be modified to 'No End in Sight' ('-E') or 'Ending Possible' ('+E'), if that helps; bearing in mind that 'Abandoned' must require the writer to say so. One more status could be 'Fragment' — i.e. there is a thread but it doesn't even get into much of a plot before entering H+n.
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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by Mirage_GSM » Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:55 am

Well, the distinction between "abandoned" and "ongoing" was a bit arbitrary, but in general we considered a story that hadn't been updated in 6 months abandoned with some notable exceptions for long going stories with known long update cycles.
I agree this could be improved somewhat, but rather than the "> 1 year" solution (that would have to be updated as time goes on), it should probably rather be a "last update 2014-02-31" or something like that.

And the "off board" as I understood it would probably be more a coordination tool for the people adding to the library, so I don't see any problem there.
I could upload all the docs containing the current library entries - I made most of them anyway; comrade just posted them. (Sea was never involved in the library as far as I know - apart from suggesting this anniversary thread.)

But the first order of business would be to ask SC to change the opening posts over to a new user - Blank Mage, dewelar and myself volunteered, and I think we've all been around long enough that we can be expected to be around a bit longer still :-)
The actual updating of the thread is the least amount of work by the way. It's just copy pasting the code from the doc into the thread. It's far more tedious to check and fix the formatting of the third person submitted entries - some people have real problems using the template. ^^°

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Oh, and I missed one question:
I did create seperate entries for individual one-shots in collection threads, if I felt the stories warranted it.
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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by Oddball » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:06 am

Well, the distinction between "abandoned" and "ongoing" was a bit arbitrary, but in general we considered a story that hadn't been updated in 6 months abandoned with some notable exceptions for long going stories with known long update cycles.
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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by forgetmenot » Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:06 am

Oddball wrote:
Well, the distinction between "abandoned" and "ongoing" was a bit arbitrary, but in general we considered a story that hadn't been updated in 6 months abandoned with some notable exceptions for long going stories with known long update cycles.
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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by Blank Mage » Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:39 am

Oddball wrote:
Well, the distinction between "abandoned" and "ongoing" was a bit arbitrary, but in general we considered a story that hadn't been updated in 6 months abandoned with some notable exceptions for long going stories with known long update cycles.
Whenever somebody says something like this, I feel like I should appologize. :oops:
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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by bhtooefr » Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:01 pm

Idea: what about creating an account for the Library itself (unless that was what was meant by "a new user"), assigning the Library posts to that user, and then sharing that account among the library administrators?

I'm normally against shared accounts, but AFAIK it's the only technical way to do this without making the library administrators forum moderators, or moving it off the KS forums entirely.
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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by dewelar » Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:04 pm

bhtooefr wrote:Idea: what about creating an account for the Library itself (unless that was what was meant by "a new user"), assigning the Library posts to that user, and then sharing that account among the library administrators?

I'm normally against shared accounts, but AFAIK it's the only technical way to do this without making the library administrators forum moderators, or moving it off the KS forums entirely.
That's not a bad idea, at least in theory. It would be simple enough to create a shared Yahoo or Gmail account as the "owner" of the board account. The same could be done for other accounts with multiple overseers (e.g., the Book Club). There might be security concerns, but that could be easily handled as well. Of course, it would have to be approved by Silentcook before implementation.
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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by brythain » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:26 pm

[This] was my contribution to the Library's rather sad and silent second anniversary. I always think of Yuuko sitting there with no new books coming in and dusting the shelves and sighing to herself.
Post-Yamaku, what happens? After The Dream is a mosaic that follows everyone to the (sometimes) bitter end.
Main Index (Complete)Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/AkiraHideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of SuzuSakura—The Kenji Saga.
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Re: The Library Anniversarie Collection

Post by brythain » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:08 pm

25th August, 2016 was the third anniversary of the Yamaku Library, such as it has been. The Library is still open. Do drop by.
Post-Yamaku, what happens? After The Dream is a mosaic that follows everyone to the (sometimes) bitter end.
Main Index (Complete)Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/AkiraHideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of SuzuSakura—The Kenji Saga.
"Much has been lost, and there is much left to lose." — Tim Powers, The Drawing of the Dark (1979)

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