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Re: Yamaku Book Club (Now Reading: Shades of Distinction)

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I wonder how many of the fanfics dated before the full release have stood up to the test of time.
Actually, I also wonder how many of the really early ones (there are a few pre-Act One?) survive that test.

Anyone up for some research?
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How do you define "stood up to the test of time"?
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Mirage_GSM wrote:How do you define "stood up to the test of time"?
Remains consistent with the full release and is (arguably, which is the point of the discussion) still a good read in the context of the full release.
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Main Index (Complete)Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/AkiraHideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of SuzuSakura—The Kenji Saga.
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Well, I don't have the details for most such stories present anymore, but for one of my own I listed the discrepancies here.
I think there are plenty of stories published after the release that have greater deviations from canon.

Whether or not it is a good read, I'll leave up to you.

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Since Sea hasn't proposed a story for some time, why don't you discuss this one? Even though it's not finished yet. :oops:
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Mirage_GSM wrote:Well, I don't have the details for most such stories present anymore, but for one of my own I listed the discrepancies here.
I think there are plenty of stories published after the release that have greater deviations from canon.

Whether or not it is a good read, I'll leave up to you.

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Edit:
Since Sea hasn't proposed a story for some time, why don't you discuss this one? Even though it's not finished yet. :oops:
What I loved about it when I first read it (and still love about it on second reading) is the range of character POVs that you went through, beginning with Kenji. Indirectly, it was inspiration for me to look at all the other characters and try to see what I could find in them that would be fresh and interesting. When I first joined the forums in February this year, it didn't seem so unlikely that a new chapter would appear soon. I regret that after a while I stopped thinking about it, and I'm glad that I have had this opportunity to revisit your work. The discrepancies are not that great, and I am sure that you (and others) have pointed out greater ones in works written after the full release. :)

I shall read it a third time and make some comments that are hopefully more intelligent. :)
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Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/AkiraHideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of SuzuSakura—The Kenji Saga.
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Re: Yamaku Book Club (Now Reading: Shades of Distinction)

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Hey, if we're looking for a pre-release fic to discuss, can we do From Shizune's Perspective? It's probably my favorite pre-release fic.
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Leaty wrote:Hey, if we're looking for a pre-release fic to discuss, can we do From Shizune's Perspective? It's probably my favorite pre-release fic.
It was a brilliantly written/edited narrative in the sense that Shizune, Shiina/Misha and Emi all came across as strong, well-defined characters with natural and meaningful character development. As someone who only ever saw KS from the full release side, these characters are a little alien to me but they grew on me and felt real (even though from an alternate universe, as it were). It doesn't seem to have a natural conclusion, and yet it concludes very nicely.

Shizune is overpoweringly dominant in this piece; she has backstory, and the nature of her disability draws the entire narrative into a vortex around her. The rest are really shadows unless she illuminates them with her perceptions. I felt the claustrophobia that I also felt when I wrote my Shizune arc—being deaf cuts your ability to receive data to mere line-of-sight, and only in the direction you're looking. It's like playing FPS without audio feedback, except this is real life and the range of information a 'normal' person is expected to process in real-time is much broader than that.

What fascinated me was reading through all the comments in between posts. It was like trawling an archive. This work appeared nearly three years ago. And some of the voices there are recognisably still themselves, while others have vanished. When I first read this work, I only read the constituent chapters, and my mind filed them away as pre-release, curious material but not 'real stuff'. Please understand that when I first got to it, I was a fresh KS completer and a lot more of a naïf than I am now, I think.

Thanks, Leaty, for making me read this again.
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Main Index (Complete)Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/AkiraHideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of SuzuSakura—The Kenji Saga.
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I joined these forums on Feb 24, the day after the Book Club started on Feb 23. And now it's almost a year. Did we run out of stories to discuss? :(
Post-Yamaku, what happens? After The Dream is a mosaic that follows everyone to the (sometimes) bitter end.
Main Index (Complete)Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/AkiraHideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of SuzuSakura—The Kenji Saga.
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No, we ran out of Sea.
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Perhaps it's time for a new "official" Guy-that-runs-the-Book-Club.

Any nominations and/or volunteers?
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Oddball wrote:Perhaps it's time for a new "official" Guy-that-runs-the-Book-Club.

Any nominations and/or volunteers?
I'd like to nominate you and/or Mirage_GSM, simply because you seem to have read across or read through most of the Library.
Currently, I think of the available material in these forums as 1) pre-release, 2) post-release (2012/1 to 2013/12), and more recent (2014/1 to present).
Maybe one of you might like to pick from these three categories on rotation, or think of new categories, or not have categories at all but just pick something?
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Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/AkiraHideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of SuzuSakura—The Kenji Saga.
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Hello there, I went a way for a while. If anybody want to take the reins, i'm afraid I have lost the spark. PM me if you would like to make your case for taking the book club over.
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Sea wrote:Hello there, I went a way for a while. If anybody want to take the reins, i'm afraid I have lost the spark. PM me if you would like to make your case for taking the book club over.
That leaves me feeling a little sad. It was one of the first things I encountered when I first came here. :(
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Main Index (Complete)Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/AkiraHideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of SuzuSakura—The Kenji Saga.
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brythain wrote:
Sea wrote:Hello there, I went a way for a while. If anybody want to take the reins, i'm afraid I have lost the spark. PM me if you would like to make your case for taking the book club over.
That leaves me feeling a little sad. It was one of the first things I encountered when I first came here. :(
Hmmmmmm, well, if enough people wanted to I suppose i could keep it moving at the very least, is there any interest though? It's been a while.
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Sea wrote:
brythain wrote:
Sea wrote:Hello there, I went a way for a while. If anybody want to take the reins, i'm afraid I have lost the spark. PM me if you would like to make your case for taking the book club over.
That leaves me feeling a little sad. It was one of the first things I encountered when I first came here. :(
Hmmmmmm, well, if enough people wanted to I suppose i could keep it moving at the very least, is there any interest though? It's been a while.
Actually, the hiatus of the YBC is one of the reasons I don't visit the boards as often as I used to. At the very least, I'd like it to stick around long enough to review something of mine :wink:.
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