Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Suox » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:31 pm

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Mamen » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:38 pm

Suox wrote:Nothing I can really say that has already been said, so I won't rant at you with a point that's already been made. You should probably try to plan your story and think about the events that will take place in the story and whether you honestly think they would happen in real life - something being unbelievable isn't "dramatic", it's just silly.

I understand that English isn't your native language so the spelling and grammar errors are completely normal, but perhaps you should get yourself a proofreader, run your story through spellcheck, and read over it a few times just to make sure before you submit it.
Yes, but as I said before, I really don't want this small fan fiction to be that big of a deal. It's just something small I did in my free time, and I honestly don't want to use more of my free time on it.

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Suox » Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:40 pm

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Silentcook » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:32 pm

Mamen wrote:Like I said, please overlook the bad scripting, grammar, ect ect.
No.

This is like a cook saying "please overlook my using salt instead of sugar in the cake recipe and my overcooking it", and then wanting to know if the cake still came out all right. Of course it didn't, and because of your mistakes it's impossible to judge it correctly as a cake.

You seem to believe that the concept is the most important thing. That's the 1% inspiration. The basics are the 99% perspiration. You have repeatedly stated you don't feel like putting any more effort in, so there's really nothing more to say.
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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by pandaphil » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:00 pm

I admit I'm not a particularly good writer, but if I'm going to share my work, I want it to always do the best I can.

It really is a good policy to live by.
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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Mamen » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:13 pm

Silentcook wrote:
Mamen wrote:Like I said, please overlook the bad scripting, grammar, ect ect.
No.

This is like a cook saying "please overlook my using salt instead of sugar in the cake recipe and my overcooking it", and then wanting to know if the cake still came out all right. Of course it didn't, and because of your mistakes it's impossible to judge it correctly as a cake.

You seem to believe that the concept is the most important thing. That's the 1% inspiration. The basics are the 99% perspiration. You have repeatedly stated you don't feel like putting any more effort in, so there's really nothing more to say.
Except I'm not trying to make a cake or a masterpiece. You're missing the point here, I don't want it to be a big deal. It's just a quickie I made and it doesn't have to be chiselled to perfection. Let it be as it is. The people who like it will like it and the people who hate it will rant in the comments. Cycle of life.

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Guest Poster » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:31 pm

You are now saying you're not interested in improving your writing skills and telling people "let it be as it is", yet you did say you were open to criticism at the very end of your opening post which suggested you were looking for ways to improve and asking people for feedback to use. So eh...be careful what you wish for? (unless "criticism" was a codeword for praise, but I assume it wasn't)
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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Mamen » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:48 pm

Guest Poster wrote:You are now saying you're not interested in improving your writing skills and telling people "let it be as it is", yet you did say you were open to criticism at the very end of your opening post which suggested you were looking for ways to improve and asking people for feedback to use. So eh...be careful what you wish for? (unless "criticism" was a codeword for praise, but I assume it wasn't)
You guys are always trying to find a way to rant at me xP. And yes I did want some criticism as in if it was bad or good. I didn't really want to improve. All I wanted to know is if people liked it or not.

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by griffon8 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:41 pm

Then here is your next English lesson.

Criticism includes the evaluation of a work for its merits. It results in recommendations for improvement as well as praise for good aspects.

Wanting to know if people like it or not is asking for a simple binary opinion. And I think our collective opinion can be summed up in: we didn't like it.

Harsh? Maybe. But accurate from what every post here has said. Your first post said "I am open to criticism." Everything you've said after that contradicts that statement.
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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Mamen » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:20 am

griffon8 wrote:Then here is your next English lesson.

Criticism includes the evaluation of a work for its merits. It results in recommendations for improvement as well as praise for good aspects.

Wanting to know if people like it or not is asking for a simple binary opinion. And I think our collective opinion can be summed up in: we didn't like it.

Harsh? Maybe. But accurate from what every post here has said. Your first post said "I am open to criticism." Everything you've said after that contradicts that statement.
Yes but I didn't expect to be spammed by the same criticism and rant's by the same people. By now It stopped being criticism and started getting a bit annoying.

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Suox » Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:32 am

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by pandaphil » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:26 am

I don't think anyone's criticizing to be mean, they're trying to help. We all love good KS stories and are always happy to welcome people with new and different ideas into the fold.


I know it can hurt to hear negative comments, but please try to take them in the spirit they're intended.
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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by katt » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:28 am

For what it's worth, I enjoyed reading your little "story" and the numerous grammar errors didn't bother me at all., nor did the odd lay-out for that matter. Because it was irrelevant. The story, that's all I cared about, and I liked it.
I carefully read all the critisism.
The car crash, too much of a coincidence? Don't think so, considering its fiction. Besides, how much of a coincidence is it that all the disabled girls in the story are so attractive...
The ending I had no trouble understanding at all, I immediatelly understood they were both dead.
Bringing in the 2 corpses was unrealistic? No, in my opinion it was to make Hisao believe they were still alive and sleeping.
Maybe you could make some endings for other characters?
Because some of us, readers, do like it.

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by Mamen » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:28 am

Suox wrote:
Mamen wrote:Yes but I didn't expect to be spammed by the same criticism and rant's by the same people. By now It stopped being criticism and started getting a bit annoying.
Nobody's "ranting" or "spamming" you with the same criticism, in fact I made it a point in my own post to make sure I wasn't repeating a point which had already been made. First of all, as has already been said, if you put little thought into a piece of work, you honestly shouldn't expect it to be praised, and secondly, the reason it's "annoying" to you is because everybody has made perfectly valid criticism yet you keep stating that you "don't want to improve" - then why submit your work and ask for criticism, which essentially means to suggest ways to improve?

Honestly, it seems to me like you were expecting praise and are annoyed because you haven't received any.

Indeed, as griffon has said, harsh, but when you tell people you want criticism, you had better be prepared to receive both sides of that request.
The thing is that I don't want this mini story to be taken too seriously, a point which I've been trying to make for a while. I admit I'm not a good writer and I honestly don't feel like spending hours in learning how to script just so I can fix this mini story since I don't plan on making more, and by "I am open to criticism" I mean voice your opinion, be it negative or positive. I don't really want to spend hours of my limited free time on learning how to make my small story perfect for a group of people while some people like katt enjoy it as it is.

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Re: Epilogue (Lilly And Hisao Fan Fiction)

Post by pandaphil » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:47 am

I guess that's the end of that then.
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