Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {updated 2015-4-1}

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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by brythain » Sun Sep 07, 2014 9:57 pm

Oscar Wildecat wrote:As far as the story as a whole: I consider Mean Time To Breakdown, Developments and Sisterhood to be the three best KS fanfics on the Internet (with After the Dream earning an honorable mention). So, It goes without saying that I loved the update -- except that I just said it. :)
To put it bluntly, getting any kind of mention in the same line as those three is great with me, feels like a win. :) On my third?—fourth?—read-through of MTTB, I have to say I join you in loving the update and all that went before. I feel that I should aspire to gain the control of language, and the care with which it is used to detail events, that Leaty shows.
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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by hyroglyphixs » Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:43 pm

Finally got around to reading your new update! You cannot imagine how happy I was when I saw that there was not only 1, but 4 new chapters! :D

Onto the actual story: I loved every bit of it. After reading about how much trouble you had with the Nurse scene, I'm really glad it turned out the way it did. It definitely was the highlight for me this update. Seeing the conflict about the whole Emi situation (when is that going to be resolved, if ever :( ) as well as him seeing through Iwanako's lies was very compelling to read.

All in all, thanks a bunch for the update, I'm eagerly awaiting what you have in store next!
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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by Blank Mage » Mon Sep 08, 2014 4:35 am

Only just now getting a chance to finish this update. Wonderful, as always, by the way. I'll skip the obvious praise and commentary, since it's all been said before.

One aspect of the nurse scene that struck me was the similarities between Emi and Iwanako. Both deflect gestures of compassion and assistance, often turning on the one offering it, because they see these things as accusations, proof that they can't take care of themselves. Their reasons are different, but the results are the same. I feel for Nurse. It's a thankless job sometimes, eh?

It warms my heart to see Shizune portrayed in a manner that fits my mental image of her. Despite all her grand ambitions and arbitrary competitions, Shizune really does want to make people happy. Here's hoping that the Student Council can salvage some of their credibility with our cynical protagonist.

I still ship Hawanako, of course. God help me, I ship AU characters and what have I become?
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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by Mirage_GSM » Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:31 am

I'm still not sure about Shizune's motivations...
Misha's refusal to translate might have a deeper reason after all.
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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by KrisIsLyra » Mon Sep 08, 2014 1:38 pm

Misha x Iwanako OTP

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Post by the61scissors » Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:04 pm

A marvelous update with some interesting insights into Iwanako's character. I want to say that she is a lot more anti-authority and bitter in her thoughts than Hisao, but then again Iwanako seemed to go back to the hospital for more soul-crushing before she got the chance to settle down completely. Hell, I think the only point in the story so far where Iwanako might have been truly happy was her tea party with Lily and Hanako. I hope those two become her main social group, because the three have some lovely chemistry together (I can just imagine Iwanako trying to out-Yamato Nadeshiko an oblivious Lily as a running gag) and I think that, together, the three might be able to face their issues. I don't even care if Iwanako is paired with either of them or not (okay, I do think Iwana-Hana-ko could be very cute).

The only problem I have with this fic is how Iwanako's mother was dealt with. I suppose what we saw of her before leaving Iwanako at Yamaku makes running off to Europe days later somewhat possible, but the phone conversation she had with Iwanako made her come off so shallow, it would have been comical if it weren't so awful for Iwanako. I do hope that Iwanako's parents at least get an opportunity to not come across as more believable.

Other than that, this fic is magnificent. It looks like Iwanako will have to deal with unwanted attention from both students and faculty, and I can't wait to see what happens.

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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by Numb » Tue Sep 09, 2014 5:37 pm

How have I not posted here yet?

You captured my interest a while ago, but this update has gotten me hooked. I'd post some log wall of praise, by I'm on my phone and the typing isn't exactly the best. All I can say without blabbering on and getting annoyed at the keyboard that doesn't register my key presses fast enough is great job, though those words don't do this justice.
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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by Leaty » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:56 pm

Snapped wrote:Well, that was a huge update. Well worth the wait.
Haha, I think it's a good update, too, but not even I think it was worth that wait. I'd really like to finish my Katawa Shoujo fic while people still care about Katawa Shoujo.
Oscar Wildecat wrote:As far as the Iwanako's role in story so far: I wonder if she's in the KS Fanfiction "Green Room" at the moment comparing notes with Developments!Hanako about having allergic reactions to well-intentioned advice.
That was kind of weird. It's funny that Dewelar and I both had the idea to reference each other's characters at approximately the same time, too. There wasn't really any collusion at all.
Oscar Wildecat wrote:Hey, she could even give Rin a shot -- if she wanted to challenge her sanity again. (BTW, another excellent Rinterpretation.)
I have a feeling we will be seeing Rin again before the end of Act One. Poor Iwanako.
Oscar Wildecat wrote:As far as the story as a whole: I consider Mean Time To Breakdown, Developments and Sisterhood to be the three best KS fanfics on the Internet (with After the Dream earning an honorable mention). So, It goes without saying that I loved the update -- except that I just said it. :)
I... wow. I really don't know what to do with that praise. Those are some of my favorite fics, too. Thank you so much.
hyroglyphixs wrote:The whole Emi situation (when is that going to be resolved, if ever :(
I have some very wonderful plans in mind.
Blank Mage wrote:One aspect of the nurse scene that struck me was the similarities between Emi and Iwanako. Both deflect gestures of compassion and assistance, often turning on the one offering it, because they see these things as accusations, proof that they can't take care of themselves.
Actually, I myself only noticed those similarities after I was putting the finishing touches on that scene. It's interesting; I think that if you look deeply enough, you'll notice that in many ways Iwanako mirrors some aspect of the six main girls. Though in text Iwanako has only really remarked on her similarity to Hanako, the same could be said about Lilly, Emi, Shizune and even Misha. (Not Rin, though. Those two are definitely complete opposites.)

This kind of bothered me when I first realized it--I wondered if I'd actually written Iwanako as a unique character and not a hodgepodge of the other girls' characteristics--but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to me. After all, Hisao had feelings for Iwanako (I know a lot of people headcanon him as not really caring outside of some superficial attraction, but that isn't the case in this fic,) and since Hisao in all possible routes goes from having feelings for Iwanako to having feelings for one of the other girls, it would only follow that there was some kind of nebulous quality in both girls that would form the impetus for his attraction. So, while it wasn't intentional, I think it's very appropriate.
KrisIsLyra wrote:Misha x Iwanako OTP
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the61scissors wrote:A marvelous update with some interesting insights into Iwanako's character. I want to say that she is a lot more anti-authority and bitter in her thoughts than Hisao, but then again Iwanako seemed to go back to the hospital for more soul-crushing before she got the chance to settle down completely.
If nothing else, Hisao's an Aries and Iwanako's a Capricorn, so it stands to reason that they'd see the world differently. (Okay, I don't usually bring up astrology, but the characters in KS fit their astrological signs so well that it kind of blows my mind a little.)
the61scissors wrote:The only problem I have with this fic is how Iwanako's mother was dealt with. I suppose what we saw of her before leaving Iwanako at Yamaku makes running off to Europe days later somewhat possible, but the phone conversation she had with Iwanako made her come off so shallow, it would have been comical if it weren't so awful for Iwanako. I do hope that Iwanako's parents at least get an opportunity to not come across as more believable.
Hmm, that's interesting, since both of Iwanako's parents are actually based on real people I've known since I was a kid.

The thing about Yoshizumi in particular is that she's oblivious, indolent and immature. She doesn't have a job and she's very much a bon vivant whose knee-jerk response to any ordeal is to throw money at it until the problem goes away. Until Iwanako had a heart attack, the worst thing Yoshizumi ever had to deal with was pregnancy, so it's unsurprising even to Iwanako that her mother is almost useless in this crisis.

Perhaps she's a little exaggerated, but I certainly think she's more believable than Jigoro.

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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by bhtooefr » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:06 pm

Leaty wrote:Though in text Iwanako has only really remarked on her similarity to Hanako, the same could be said about Lilly
Leaty wrote:As Lilly begins to pour my cup of tea, working around her blindness with one digit of what a romantic would probably call pianist’s hands, it hits me that Lilly Satou does a better Iwanako than I do.
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Post by Leaty » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:12 pm

Yes, that's what I said? I just didn't remark on that comment in particular because it didn't seem comparable to her musings about in Not So Cute. She doesn't consider Lilly so much similar as superior.

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Post by dewelar » Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:42 pm

Leaty wrote:
Oscar Wildecat wrote:As far as the Iwanako's role in story so far: I wonder if she's in the KS Fanfiction "Green Room" at the moment comparing notes with Developments!Hanako about having allergic reactions to well-intentioned advice.
That was kind of weird. It's funny that Dewelar and I both had the idea to reference each other's characters at approximately the same time, too. There wasn't really any collusion at all.
I can vouch for this. If there had been, Lilly would have referred to Momomi as Momomi in her thoughts, after all. I should probably go fix that now :) .
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Oscar Wildecat wrote:As far as the story as a whole: I consider Mean Time To Breakdown, Developments and Sisterhood to be the three best KS fanfics on the Internet (with After the Dream earning an honorable mention). So, It goes without saying that I loved the update -- except that I just said it. :)
I... wow. I really don't know what to do with that praise. Those are some of my favorite fics, too. Thank you so much.
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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by SirKaid » Thu Sep 11, 2014 5:50 am

I think the similarity between Iwanako and Rin, at least to Hisao, is more in the negative space. Hisao thinks of them both (at least up to the heart attack) as mysteries to be uncovered and deciphered.

We don't see much of it with Iwanako due to her extremely limited screen time, but the opening scene always leaves me with the impression that Hisao is there primarily to satisfy his curiosity and that the fact that the girl is cute is just a bonus.

Also, I'll second all those posters calling this one of the best fanfics in the fandom. I'm definitely pleased to see it continue.

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Post by emmjay » Thu Sep 11, 2014 6:23 am

Leaty wrote:
hyroglyphixs wrote:The whole Emi situation (when is that going to be resolved, if ever :(
I have some very wonderful plans in mind.
Eeeeeevil plans? (Here's hoping.) :twisted:
Perhaps she's a little exaggerated, but I certainly think she's more believable than Jigoro.
That's not exactly raising the bar very high, you know. But seriously, I don't find her reaction that unbelievable. Hey, compared to some parents out there, she's a model of attentiveness and devotion.
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Post by Silentcook » Thu Sep 11, 2014 4:51 pm

Leaty wrote:I'd really like to finish my Katawa Shoujo fic while people still care about Katawa Shoujo.
Well, that at least doesn't seem to be a problem. 8) So far.
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Re: Iwanako: Mean Time to Breakdown {UPDATED 2014-9-5!}

Post by Leaty » Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:00 am

SirKaid wrote:I think the similarity between Iwanako and Rin, at least to Hisao, is more in the negative space. Hisao thinks of them both (at least up to the heart attack) as mysteries to be uncovered and deciphered.
That's a good point. Much like Rin, Iwanako in the VN is pretty much inscrutable. Hell, Hisao even interprets her actions five different ways across all the routes. That doesn't really translate well to her perspective, though.
SirKaid wrote:We don't see much of it with Iwanako due to her extremely limited screen time, but the opening scene always leaves me with the impression that Hisao is there primarily to satisfy his curiosity and that the fact that the girl is cute is just a bonus.
That wasn't my impression at all, playing the game. Indeed, in this story Iwanako and Hisao had actually known each other for a few years; they just hadn't gotten a lot of chances to grow close.

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