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Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:32 pm
by dirtnasty
Thanks for this, I now have 100% Library and have unlocked the final CG.

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:17 pm
by Feuver
Version 2.4 of my Flowchart Released!

This time, I fixed up a major mistake regarding how to get Slow Recovery/Home field disadvantage, it should be more clear now.
Also fixed up Rin's path so you don't have to read one big bubble but two smaller and more concise bubble.

Katawa Shoujo Flowchart version 2.4

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:40 pm
by Mirage_GSM
I still suggest to split these into smaller parts do improve readability.
Also, arrows pointing upwards are somewhat counter intuitive.
Hmm... The condition for Creative pain is more "NOT Lilly/Hanako+" instead of "Rin+"
And the chart still doesn't mention that choices before lunch Evolution Theory don't count towards later branches (e.g. Home Field Advantage or Slow Recovery). Would be VERY hard to get on Rin's path if it worked that way...

Otherwise Act 1 should be correct now.

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:31 pm
by Feuver
Mirage_GSM wrote:I still suggest to split these into smaller parts do improve readability.
Also, arrows pointing upwards are somewhat counter intuitive.
Hmm... The condition for Creative pain is more "NOT Lilly/Hanako+" instead of "Rin+"
And the chart still doesn't mention that choices before lunch Evolution Theory don't count towards later branches (e.g. Home Field Advantage or Slow Recovery). Would be VERY hard to get on Rin's path if it worked that way...

Otherwise Act 1 should be correct now.
Okay, I will be doing an update where there will be a complete flowchart and a segmented flowchart.
Right, it makes more sense if Lilly/Hanako is inferior, since there seems to be no point system to get Rin's act, just a lack thereof.
I understand what you mean now with the points not counting after Lunch Evolution theory, I'll work on an update reflecting this.

Arrow point upwards are counter intuitive, I'll see what I can do.

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:38 pm
by Feuver
New version of my flowchart(s) now released!

Version 2.5 is now more correct, resetting the points after the Lunch Evolution theory and such.
I also chopped down the arcs for easier reading.

Katawa Shoujo full flowchart by Feuver Version 2.5

Katawa shoujo Rin path

Katawa Shoujo Emi path

Katawa Shoujo Lilly path

Katawa Shoujo Shizune path (lol)

Katawa Shoujo Hanako Path

Katawa Shoujo First Act

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:46 pm
by Mirage_GSM
Really like the layout for the top part of Rin's path!
Seems the only stuff left is minor cosmetic stuff; for example, I'd put Badaan and Rose tinted glasses on the same level and symmetric to each other.

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:58 pm
by Feuver
Ahahah, I'll take a break for now. If there is any mistakes/errors that comes up, I'll do another update and fix the symmetry and the likes.

Have fun, I really liked playing Katawa Shoujo, and I hope that if you have any trouble, my flowchart helps.

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:30 am
by Ender
Nice job Fuever :)

So far I've only done the Lilly route, but I think I have to mention that the chart for her route doesn't look quite right. According to the flowchart it looks like the good end could be achieved just from choosing to talk about the letter for the last choice and none of the other choices matter. However, I tried doing the route a second time choosing all the "bad" choices (according to how it was before), but still choosing to talk about the letter at the end, and I still got the bad end. It looks like it must be based on a point system after all, to me.

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:39 am
by Feuver
Ender wrote:Nice job Fuever :)

So far I've only done the Lilly route, but I think I have to mention that the chart for her route doesn't look quite right. According to the flowchart it looks like the good end could be achieved just from choosing to talk about the letter for the last choice and none of the other choices matter. However, I tried doing the route a second time choosing all the "bad" choices (according to how it was before), but still choosing to talk about the letter at the end, and I still got the bad end. It looks like it must be based on a point system after all, to me.
I'll check it out

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:07 am
by Feuver
Aww damn, it appears you are right, but I still think the letter is a very important point. I'll make sure.

Okay, there is no chance of getting the good ending if you drop the subject, that is clear. I'll check what number of points you need to get her good ending.

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:32 am
by The Local Hentai
Great work. Love how it says "Fuck the council"

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:37 am
by Feuver
The Local Hentai wrote:Great work. Love how it says "Fuck the council"
It's a thing I wrote in the first version, and thought about removing, but really, you quite literally tell the council to fuck off at that point, so I left it there. it's quite self-explanatory, too.

Also, found the score system in Lilly's arc. Will update the flowchart shortly.

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:03 am
by Feuver
Version 2.6 Released!

-More Symmetry!
-Lilly's arc fixed!

Here are the version 2.6 : (Only posting those that I've changed dramatically)

Katawa Shoujo Full Flowchart by Feuver V2.6

Katawa Shoujo Act 1 V2.6

Katawa Shoujo Rin's path V2.6

Katawa Shoujo Lilly's path V2.6

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:46 am
by Althamus
Minor error, but between Event Horizon and Home Field Advantage on Act 1, the > arrow is going the wrong way ("If Training < 1")

Also, last time I played through Act 1 I was playing Shizune's path (but not following the flow chart) and I Took It Easy when running with Emi, and avoided the heart attack scare etc, but I still ended up having lunch with her (she cornered me in the corridor and said I looked lonely and offered to let me eat lunch with her and Rin, which I found depressing, and said that she'd forgotten to eat the day before which was why she had an extra lunch left over).

Sorry though, I don't remember many details of other choices I took on that path :P

Re: Katawa Shoujo full flowchart

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:37 am
by Feuver
Althamus wrote:Minor error, but between Event Horizon and Home Field Advantage on Act 1, the > arrow is going the wrong way ("If Training < 1")

Also, last time I played through Act 1 I was playing Shizune's path (but not following the flow chart) and I Took It Easy when running with Emi, and avoided the heart attack scare etc, but I still ended up having lunch with her (she cornered me in the corridor and said I looked lonely and offered to let me eat lunch with her and Rin, which I found depressing, and said that she'd forgotten to eat the day before which was why she had an extra lunch left over).

Sorry though, I don't remember many details of other choices I took on that path :P
In fact, I think that no matter what happens you will have a lunch with Emi on the rooftop.

Home field disadvantage is set after you train with Emi, if you take it easy, you won't faint, and be back to your room where you will be cornered with Misha and Shizune, then your day goes on normally as you eat lunch with Emi.
However, if you go for it, you will go into Slow recovery. You will be cornered by them when you go to class (if you have at least 2 points with Shizune, that is) and then if you don't do sarcasm, you will have the choice to eat lunch with either, eating with shizune leads to throwing balls, while eating with Emi leads to IS CARNIVAL!