Is there an actual Misha path?

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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by NubChaos » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:13 pm

I'm inclined to agree. I always liked Misha, and all of her revelations and hidden struggles brought her down to earth and made her much more human and easy-to-sympathize with and, as a result, I ended up liking Misha even more. A similar case happened to me with Rin in her path.

However, Jigoro is still the best character in Shizune's path to me. That man's inane babbling about the failures of youth and his constant candid, if random, insults were friggin' hilarious to me. :P

But yeah, I was very impressed with Shizune's full path. The Act 1 Demo left me pretty unsure about whether I liked Shizune as a character or not, but her path helped alleviate any concerns I had. And it even introduced my favorite side-character (Jigoro) and made Misha even MORE likable to me, so there's bonus points for that. I didn't get the bad ending either, since I refused to comfort Misha, partially due to being genre savvy, and partially due to common sense (if a girl who is clearly struggling with her emotions suddenly comes on to you, it's generally not a good idea to take advantage of her emotional state. That also goes with being genre savvy, since similar situations in other fictional mediums ended very badly if the girl was "comforted").
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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Grayfox » Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:31 pm

Yubiseiharukana wrote:And it's Hisao's fault for going along with a girl's mess of thoughts in the mental state she's in if you want to get mad at the Shizune bad ending.
I didn't actually really get mad at the Shizune bad ending, as it's a logical point of progression, so this might not be directed at me, but regardless of whether or not Hisao chooses to do so or not is irrelevant for why I lost respect for Misha. I won't go as far as to say that I hate the character, but if I was really in that situation, I would trust her a hell of a lot less for even bringing up the offer to betray her closest friend in the world, no matter what the reason was.
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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Otakumon » Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:53 am

Yuno wrote:It is true, and it caused me to hate Misha.
Why hate Misha when it was you that decided to 'comfort' her while she was obviously distraught and irrational in her decision making. :wink:

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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Kamon » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:22 am

Heartlesswithaheart wrote:Yes. It's only a few minutes (ten?) and only obtainable if you enter the Konami Code when you get to choose to comfort Misha in Shizune's route. It ends with Shizune being sad and is treated as a Shizune bad end, so be careful.
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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Kyou_kun » Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:24 am

The mini-Misha arc got me to dislike her a little :/

Though I wish she did have an arc of her own :3

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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by INFERTakuya » Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:28 am

Kyou_kun wrote:Though I wish she did have an arc of her own :3
Same here. I kinda wish she'll have her own route...was really disappointed when I heard from someone else that she doesn't have one.

Even if she is lesbian, it would be interesting seeing the power of love make her bisexual, at the very least.
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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Guest » Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:58 am

INFERTakuya wrote:
Kyou_kun wrote:Though I wish she did have an arc of her own :3
Same here. I kinda wish she'll have her own route...was really disappointed when I heard from someone else that she doesn't have one.

Even if she is lesbian, it would be interesting seeing the power of love make her bisexual, at the very least.
In fact I'm *very* glad that didn't happen. The plot point of being "turned" into a different sexuality always rubs me (hurr) up the wrong way :/

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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by te-kun » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:30 am

INFERTakuya wrote:
Kyou_kun wrote:Though I wish she did have an arc of her own :3
Same here. I kinda wish she'll have her own route...was really disappointed when I heard from someone else that she doesn't have one.

Even if she is lesbian, it would be interesting seeing the power of love make her bisexual, at the very least.
I guess sexuality doesn't work that way... But I still think it would be nice a path where you aim at her, but in the middle you find out/she tells you that she isn't into guys them you would have to stand up and go on (or insist and get a bad ending)

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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Tired » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:33 am

It would be a very bad ending for all involved. Confusion and wanting to make others happy when you are in a terrible emotional state and uncomfortable/unsure yourself only leads to, well, bad end. Trust me, it's good - and good writing - that she doesn't.

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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Nyoro » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:37 am

Just because Misha is sexually attracted to other girls doesn't mean she can't be bi-romantic. They could go on dates and maybe even kiss and sleep in the same bed together, there'd just be no sex or touching as Misha wouldn't be into that (and that could turn into a point of conflict if Hisao wants a sexual relationship). That way, it doesn't really count as the 'turned into other sexuality' thing and any ero or naughty talk could be plot-based.

I actually think that'd be interesting, personally.

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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Tired » Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:41 am

Maybe, although I still don't know if Misha showed any signs of romantic attraction to Hisao?... I feel it'd end up being that, and then one or both of them would feel pressured to have sex even if they both knew the other would be fine without it. And yes, it would hurt Shizune, and possibly Misha, and possibly Hisao.

But to each their own. Maybe you, or someone, will write a fanfic about it.

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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Mirage_GSM » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:24 am

te-kun wrote:I guess sexuality doesn't work that way... But I still think it would be nice a path where you aim at her, but in the middle you find out/she tells you that she isn't into guys them you would have to stand up and go on (or insist and get a bad ending)
You know, a path like this would be so mold-breaking that it would be a perfect fit for KS.
The good end of a VN consisting of coming to terms with NOT getting the girl... I don't think I've ever seen that before...
I kind of want A22 to write that...
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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Rivan » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:29 am

Mirage_GSM wrote:
te-kun wrote:I guess sexuality doesn't work that way... But I still think it would be nice a path where you aim at her, but in the middle you find out/she tells you that she isn't into guys them you would have to stand up and go on (or insist and get a bad ending)
You know, a path like this would be so mold-breaking that it would be a perfect fit for KS.
The good end of a VN consisting of coming to terms with NOT getting the girl... I don't think I've ever seen that before...
I kind of want A22 to write that...
In "The Flower Shop", which is sort of a mix between a sim and a novel, you have 2 "single" endings, one of which is positive and includes friendship with basically everyone. There's also the bad ending, 1 good ending per each girl and 1 "Improved" ending for each girl.

It's quite a good game, actually, and cheap (if you want to buy it).
Progress : Lilly - finished (Good ending), Hanako - finished (good ending), Rin - finished (Good ending), Shizune - finished (Bad ending), Emi - Finished (good ending)

Lilly=Rin > Hanako > Emi=Misha > Shizune

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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by sporkaganza » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:48 pm

You know, canonically, Misha never says she's a lesbian. No one else ever says that Misha is a lesbian. No mention of her sexuality or her romantic preferences is actually made besides the fact that she has a crush on Shizune. There's nothing in canon that says she doesn't like guys. Unless the devs have explicitly said so and I just haven't seen it, which I very much doubt, I don't know why everyone keeps assuming this.
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Re: Is there an actual Misha path?

Post by Merlyn_LeRoy » Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:52 pm

This is also true of the people saying Misha has no disability; she has said she's attending Yamaku because she wants to teach sign language, but that's not the same as saying she has no handicap.

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