bhtooefr wrote:Oh, and as far as other characters even having the chance for a BEFF (healthy or unhealthy)... Shizune's, the bridge got napalmed. Lilly's, we can't build bridges that long. Emi's, she slammed that door HARD, and there's no chance for reconciliation (MAYBE a decade later she could merely tolerate Hisao if they had to encounter one another). Rin's... who knows, there (and the first bad ending, was downright abusive and creepy - doesn't mean that Hisao doesn't get a second chance, but it sure as fuck wouldn't be healthy), although I've seen a BEFF off of her "neutral" end.
Well, for sure the various bad ends of the VN are salvageable to different degrees.
I agree Shizune's is out. Sleeping around with your GF's best friend is not something you just forget.
Lilly is also busted... Though you could say that her good ending is literally* a BEFF of her bad ending^^°
*Yes, I do mean literally.
Emi... In "Guess Who's Coming" Hisao drops the ball worse than he ever did in Misstep, so depending on which way you went to get to the good end you've already salvaged a pseudo bad end. Her bad end is pretty final, though. It's even said in the text: "We don't talk again after that." It doesn't get much more definite than that.
I don't really hate Shards of Ire, even though Hisao says some fucked up and abusive things to Rin in that scene; Hisao in Rin's route is probably the most emotionally unhealthy he gets in the entire game (and you can see this pretty clearly in the manner in which he shuts himself off to everybody but Rin in that storyline.) Yes, he's almost certainly messed up everything (and almost certainly irrevocably wounded Rin,) but he's going completely nuts as well, and his actions strike me as natural given how unhealthy he behaves there.
Rin's first bad end, though... Yes, Hisao says a lot of stuff to Rin that is... not really nice, but being in a relationship with Rin, you'd have to be Buddha himself not to snap at one point. More importantly the exact same dialogue turns up later en route to her good end, so if he managed to salvage it then, why shouldn't he salvage it here. Since that story has already been written, it's probably pointless to write a BEFF about it, though.
Rin's second bad end... That one is heart-breakingly, gut-crushingly, tear-jerkingly final as well. Rin is not as far out of reach as Lilly, but she might as well be.
Which leaves us with Misstep.
Actually I think this is the most realistically salvageable of them all. Hanako is suffering through a bout of depression, Hisao gets on her nerves and she explodes. Hands up if your GF/BF/spouse never exploded on you (justified or otherwise). Once she calms down and works through her depressive phase she'll probably regret exploding like that.
Yes, Hisao has been clubbed with the idiot bat in this one, but up to this time he and Hanako got along well, and she considered him a friend. So IF Hisao can take a hint, apologizes for being a moron and refrains from doing stupid stuff afterwards, I don't see why Hanako wouldn't forgive him and at least go back to being friends again. Lovers would probably be less likely or take longer in this scenario, but it's not out of the question.
Now that I think of it, Misstep is a bit like a reversed Illusions for People/Shards of Ire with not Hisao but Hanako being the one to explode. Explosions like that can be very useful to clear the air and make people understand each other better. (Also: Make-Up Sex)
If Illusions for People set the scene for Hisao finally being able to understand Rin a bit in Demused, then Misstep can clue him in about Hanako.
All that said I still wouldn't write a BEFF after Misstep unless I had a story to tell that went beyond "Hisao and Hanako get back together".