Is it just me?

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Re: Is it just me?

Post by someguy1294 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:11 pm

Munchenhausen wrote:
Liminaut wrote:I wonder what a sequel to KS would look like?

One big aspect of the story for me that I liked was the fumbling, insecure nature of first loves and navigating that.
I think maybe this is why I'd prefer a sequel to be fresher characters... Continuing loves are boring. Yes, they're sweet and lovey and all that crap, but you can't really top the chase. Best part of a relationship, imho.
You can tell a compelling love story that starts when the lovers are already together, and honestly, it seems like a few too many romance writers seem to assume you have to start before the characters get together. I'd like to see more writer explore established relationship in motion. Compelling fiction comes from characters suffering, and few things can make characters suffer more than taking a couple of lovers and putting an obstacle between them.

One of the finest (and shortest) visual novels I ever read, "Air Pressure", starts with an already established relationship, but it is far from 'sweet and lovey'.
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by SpunkySix » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:35 pm

someguy1294 wrote:
Munchenhausen wrote:
Liminaut wrote:I wonder what a sequel to KS would look like?

One big aspect of the story for me that I liked was the fumbling, insecure nature of first loves and navigating that.
I think maybe this is why I'd prefer a sequel to be fresher characters... Continuing loves are boring. Yes, they're sweet and lovey and all that crap, but you can't really top the chase. Best part of a relationship, imho.
You can tell a compelling love story that starts when the lovers are already together, and honestly, it seems like a few too many romance writers seem to assume you have to start before the characters get together. I'd like to see more writer explore established relationship in motion. Compelling fiction comes from characters suffering, and few things can make characters suffer more than taking a couple of lovers and putting an obstacle between them.

One of the finest (and shortest) visual novels I ever read, "Air Pressure", starts with an already established relationship, but it is far from 'sweet and lovey'.
Oh man, that one's crazy. It's also at least partially a metaphor for drug addiction, but that's besides the point.

Try it out, it really is super short:

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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Atario » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:40 pm

Munchenhausen wrote:Continuing loves are boring. Yes, they're sweet and lovey and all that crap, but you can't really top the chase. Best part of a relationship, imho.
Yikes. Pity your poor SO.
someguy1294 wrote:it seems like a few too many romance writers seem to assume you have to start before the characters get together.
Hell, in most anime-and-related genres, people expect the story to end at the first kiss. Going beyond is considered beating a dead horse. :roll:
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Walshy12238 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:44 pm

Atario wrote:
someguy1294 wrote:it seems like a few too many romance writers seem to assume you have to start before the characters get together.
Hell, in most anime-and-related genres, people expect the story to end at the first kiss. Going beyond is considered beating a dead horse. :roll:
Going beyond certainly worked for KS.
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Megumeru » Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:51 pm

Walshy12238 wrote: Going beyond certainly worked for KS.
KS Afterstory?

University years and what-not?
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Walshy12238 » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:10 pm

Megumeru wrote:
Walshy12238 wrote: Going beyond certainly worked for KS.
KS Afterstory?

University years and what-not?
Not entirely sure what you mean :P I'm talking about how KS took the romance-story further than the first kiss, and it worked.
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Grimnir » Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:55 pm

Megumeru wrote:KS Afterstory?

University years and what-not?
YES! Oh for the love of god, yes.
If you ask me those are the years that really are interesting, at least at my age. (24)
They've come to know and love each other and then what? University and the first years after that is the time where the real life starts. Will they "survive" those years together or grow apart under the stress? We're given highschool romances here and if a story ends after the first kiss, first sex or (correct me if I'm wrong) first days/weeks of relationship development. That is way too soon to say: "And they lived happily ever after."

Okay yeah, we can say that is what fanfiction is for and I know that it is a near lifetime projekt to create a VN as detailed as KS over the course of let's say 5-10 years. But I would love to see a KS trilogy.

Katawa Shoujo
Katawa Shoujo 2: The After Years (University)
Katawa Shoujo 3: With a Vengance (First five years after university.)

I can totally see and appreciate the idea of give the audience a good start and leave the rest to their fantasies. I just wanna know how the official team would imagine the life of these charakters and make something out of it.
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Pandas » Thu May 01, 2014 5:31 pm

Darklord13 wrote:I don't know if this is worth ana entire new page(or if it even is allowed to be dicussed about),but it has been bugging me for 2 weeks.
So,i downloaded KS 2-3 weeks ago and went for Hanakos route first.After finishing the route i was completely shoked by the realism and the ''feels'' the game has.Since i finished Hanakos route i feel like i NEED a KS 2(or 1.5)that tells the story of what happens AFTER the 5 routes you can follow end.
Is it just me that i feel this need of an official sequel,or am i just getting crazy(Yes,i know that the KS team and 4LS have made it quite clear there won't be anything else related to KS).? :(
Oh yeah, trust me.
I feel the same way.
This game has got me addicted and not having a second makes me want to explode.

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Re: Is it just me?

Post by RandomPerson » Thu May 01, 2014 5:35 pm

Pandas wrote:
Darklord13 wrote:I don't know if this is worth ana entire new page(or if it even is allowed to be dicussed about),but it has been bugging me for 2 weeks.
So,i downloaded KS 2-3 weeks ago and went for Hanakos route first.After finishing the route i was completely shoked by the realism and the ''feels'' the game has.Since i finished Hanakos route i feel like i NEED a KS 2(or 1.5)that tells the story of what happens AFTER the 5 routes you can follow end.
Is it just me that i feel this need of an official sequel,or am i just getting crazy(Yes,i know that the KS team and 4LS have made it quite clear there won't be anything else related to KS).? :(
Oh yeah, trust me.
I feel the same way.
This game has got me addicted and not having a second makes me want to explode.
Dude read sisterhood, it will make you feel better
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Pandas » Thu May 01, 2014 5:41 pm

RandomPerson wrote:
Pandas wrote:
Darklord13 wrote:I don't know if this is worth ana entire new page(or if it even is allowed to be dicussed about),but it has been bugging me for 2 weeks.
So,i downloaded KS 2-3 weeks ago and went for Hanakos route first.After finishing the route i was completely shoked by the realism and the ''feels'' the game has.Since i finished Hanakos route i feel like i NEED a KS 2(or 1.5)that tells the story of what happens AFTER the 5 routes you can follow end.
Is it just me that i feel this need of an official sequel,or am i just getting crazy(Yes,i know that the KS team and 4LS have made it quite clear there won't be anything else related to KS).? :(
Oh yeah, trust me.
I feel the same way.
This game has got me addicted and not having a second makes me want to explode.
Dude read sisterhood, it will make you feel better
Not to drag on a huge "quote" list. but why?
Whats it about?

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Re: Is it just me?

Post by RandomPerson » Thu May 01, 2014 5:48 pm

It's a hanako good ending continuation. It's really good and will occupy you for a while. It also ties the story in a nice little knot to so it really helped me get over hanakos route
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Grimnir » Thu May 01, 2014 5:50 pm

Pandas wrote:
RandomPerson wrote:
Pandas wrote:Oh yeah, trust me.
I feel the same way.
This game has got me addicted and not having a second makes me want to explode.
Dude read sisterhood, it will make you feel better
Not to drag on a huge "quote" list. but why?
Whats it about?
I feel like a crack dealer right now buuut...

Sisterhood
Hanako's Story
Behind my Scars
Hanako/Hisao post-Yamaku

A few of the better/best Hanako fanfics I've read here. They will continue Hanako's route and in the case of "Hanako's Story" tell the story from her POV.
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Darklord13 » Thu May 01, 2014 5:53 pm

RandomPerson wrote:Dude read sisterhood, it will make you feel better
I finished it in one sitting(after someone suggested i read fanfiction at the 1st page of this post).It feels like the ending Hanako's route deserved(the in-game ending feels like a half-finished story).Thanks for the recommendation though :D

Pandas wrote:Not to drag on a huge "quote" list. but why?
Whats it about?
Sisterhood is a fanfic.It is the continuation of Hanako's route,and i strongly suggest you read it RIGHT NOW.It will help ease the pain(at least it helped in my case)
http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=6750
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Re: Is it just me?

Post by arthritis_5 » Sat May 03, 2014 5:14 pm

OK Im agreeing this this person. I NEED A SECOND GAME... 4LS left the game wide open for a second part

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Re: Is it just me?

Post by Guest Poster » Sat May 03, 2014 5:44 pm

Did they? Admittedly some routes wrap things up more than others, but "wide open" usually implies cliffhangers that my version of KS didn't have.
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