How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's name?

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How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's name?

Post by SpunkySix » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:47 am

This was brought up in another topic, and I feel like it warrants a full discussion.
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Jailbreaker » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:54 am

Sounds nice at first, but the more I think about it, the more I don't like it. The problem is that Hisao does things in some routes that I would never have done in that situation - especially in the bad ends. If I were to have the game identify the protagonist as being me, I'd rather it actually be me than some other guy with my name. Once we get to the point where we're offering that many different dialogue options and possible resulting storylines, we're so far removed from the original game that being able to change Hisao's name seems like a minor change.

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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Oddball » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:55 am

Changing Hisao's name would serve no real purpose. The guy is his own character.
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Potato » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:17 am

Allowing the player to change his name would necessitate a full revamp of the game. Characters with custom names are expected to have a large deal of player agency involved in their interactions given that they are more fully you and KS (most VNs, even) doesn't have enough to fulfill that expectation.
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by KeiichiO » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:18 am

Oddball wrote:Changing Hisao's name would serve no real purpose. The guy is his own character.
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Flarezium » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:34 am

Hisao means "Long-lived man." Changing it would get rid of the joke.
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Potato » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:38 am

KeiichiO wrote:
Oddball wrote:Changing Hisao's name would serve no real purpose. The guy is his own character.
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Munchenhausen » Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:47 am

Gonna agree with Odball on this one

Sure, it may appeal to some people by being able to change Hisao's name to your own and make the story more immersive, but the way I see it Hisao is a character in his own right.

That and I don't think I could pull off that amazing swaggervest he has. :lol:
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Steinherz » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:24 am

Hisao's name is unchangeable because he's not a featureless protagonist.

So, I wouldn't because it'd detract from the VN
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Atario » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:31 am

However, it might be amusing (for five minutes) to be able to set it to "Pookums" or "you dumbass" or the like. :lol:
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Guest Poster » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:20 am

No doubt some people would REALLY like to put in their own name for scenes like the one where Lilly has her ILOVEYOUILOVEYOUILOVEYOU moment, but then those same people would probably be even more prone to avoiding the bad ends of the routes because they wouldn't be able to handle the idea of the girls being angry at them. So yeah, double edged sword.

Like other people said, Hisao's his own character so there's no point in pretending he's a faceless extension of the player.
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Munchenhausen » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:22 am

Atario wrote:However, it might be amusing (for five minutes) to be able to set it to "Pookums" or "you dumbass" or the like. :lol:
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Potato » Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:32 am

Guest Poster wrote:No doubt some people would REALLY like to put in their own name for scenes like the one where Lilly has her ILOVEYOUILOVEYOUILOVEYOU moment, but then those same people would probably be even more prone to avoiding the bad ends of the routes because they wouldn't be able to handle the idea of the girls being angry at them. So yeah, double edged sword.

Like other people said, Hisao's his own character so there's no point in pretending he's a faceless extension of the player.
Those people can always go play Artificial Academy. :mrgreen:
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by SpecimenSix » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:06 am

I'm with Oddball as well. Hisao is a relatively well developed character in his own right and we don't control his every action.

Plus I'd be guilty of changing his name to something like "Taargus Taargus" or "Assholian." Somehow I don't think the events of the VN would have the same effect if that were the case... :lol:
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Re: How would you feel about being able to change Hisao's na

Post by Comrade » Fri Feb 21, 2014 4:10 am

Potato wrote:
Guest Poster wrote:No doubt some people would REALLY like to put in their own name for scenes like the one where Lilly has her ILOVEYOUILOVEYOUILOVEYOU moment, but then those same people would probably be even more prone to avoiding the bad ends of the routes because they wouldn't be able to handle the idea of the girls being angry at them. So yeah, double edged sword.

Like other people said, Hisao's his own character so there's no point in pretending he's a faceless extension of the player.
Those people can always go play Artificial Academy. :mrgreen:
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