KS affects 'us' much. But, do you think it affects 'them'?

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KS affects 'us' much. But, do you think it affects 'them'?

I'm a male. I know a (few) female that cried like we did and have the same reaction like we have.
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I'm a male. I don't know about it but I think they will cry or have the same reaction like we have.
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I'm a male. I don't know about it but I think they will not cry nor have the same reaction like we have.
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I'm a male. I don't give a shit about it and I don't give a shit about females (a.k.a The Kenji Way).
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I'm a female. I cried while playing this game and certainly it affects me.
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I'm a female. I didn't cry while playing this game but it still affects me.
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I'm a female. I didn't cry while playing this game and it didn't leave me anything emotional.
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Re: KS affects 'us' much. But, do you think it affects 'them

Post by Atario » Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:41 am

wazuzu wrote:
Atario wrote:Let me throw a phrase at you and let it sink in: romance novels with pictures and music.
Oh! Exactly! And this is why I always see my female friends around reading some romance novels with pictures and music!
Trust me, women read romance novels. A lot of them listen to music as they do so. Just throw some pictures into the appeal and you have a pitch.
A statement of fact. It's genetically imprinted in our conscience. Broken ones are exiles in most societies.
Next up: "racism is a genetic fact and there's nothing anyone can do about it, so don't try", amirite?
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Post by wazuzu » Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:05 am

Atario wrote:Next up: "racism is a genetic fact and there's nothing anyone can do about it, so don't try", amirite?
Okay, writing down: "Atario is raging racist and anti-Darwinist", amirite?
You know, women tend to ignore physically-impaired men. Because their subconsciousness tells them that their kids won't be healthy either. And the main
point of Darwinian theory is that "Only the most adapted being survives". By Darwin, those, who are somehow impaired should not prolong their "crippled" bloodline.
During ancient times, a blind man had much less chances of surviving. During our days we have lots of tools to give those disabled people much needed comfort, but it does not cancel the fact that they are disabled.
I am not going further with this, because the consequences can be severe.

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Post by TheVUP » Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:24 pm

Atario wrote:I don't know where you're getting this preposterous idea. Women talk to each other about anything and everything. They're kind of notorious for it.
Umm... "anything and everything"? Aren't you generalizing women too much?
Look. Unlike some user here, I'm NOT teaching.
wazuzu wrote:A statement of fact. It's genetically imprinted in our conscience. Broken ones are exiles in most societies.
Atario wrote:Next up: "racism is a genetic fact and there's nothing anyone can do about it, so don't try", amirite?
wazuzu wrote:Okay, writing down: "Atario is raging racist and anti-Darwinist", amirite?
I'm not sure I'm following you guys. I'm still trying to understand it with my limited English comprehension. =D
But thank you anyway for sharing your thought. And posting it here. =D
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Post by Rudz » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:53 pm

Like has already been discussed, the question is not whether or not it would affect them as such - it is more so how likely they would be to get drawn in to KS in the first place in my opinion. Anyone with a heart will be affected by KS - if you do not get feels at this game, I'm sorry, but you have no soul. None. Not even the tiniest little bit of one. :P

As has also been previously discussed, it is a shame that other VN's and Dating Sim's give this kind of genre a bit of a bad name. I'll admit, to date, KS has been my one and only VN experience, simply because it was such a pure and good experience that has actually drawn me fully into the story, I don't want to try another incase it's just sexsexsexsexsexsexdialoguesexsexsexsexsex. It would ruin the idea of VN's for me. I can only imagine what a female would think...first off at the animé style art coupled with the fact that they are disabled sex scenes could give them the impression that it is just another hentai game for people with fetishes, which is mind-numbingly far from the truth.

I agree with what was said before, it is something that needs to be discovered and experienced on one's own. =D
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Post by pandaphil » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:20 pm

forgetmenot wrote:
But then you get into the realm of possibilities wherein the following exchange takes place: "Soooo my friend recommended this anime game and I played it and there's like full-on sex scenes with crippled girls. Dude's into some weird shit. Let's never talk to him again."

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of situation. Personally I think the best way to discover KS is on your own. Or recommended by a friend who knows you well enough that you won't be immediately put off by an anal scene with a loli-type legless girl in a track shed.
Thats why I only share it with people who know me. If they can play through KS and still think of Lilly as "That blind girl", or Emi as "That chick with no legs" then they're seriously lacking in emotional maturity and don't deserve my friendship, or KS.

Its right up there with "Anime is about tentacle porn". Screw those people.
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Post by Rudz » Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:40 pm

I pretty much agree with pandaphil. If you show someone this VN, and they play through it and all they have to say is "DUDE...fuck you and your hentai crap!!" then it just shows that they aren't mature enough to see past the sex and the disability aspect.
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Post by Kyler Thatch » Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:11 pm

Rudz wrote:I'll admit, to date, KS has been my one and only VN experience, simply because it was such a pure and good experience that has actually drawn me fully into the story, I don't want to try another incase it's just sexsexsexsexsexsexdialoguesexsexsexsexsex. It would ruin the idea of VN's for me.
I think there was a thread around here for VN recommendations? I'm sure someone can point to a couple of good ones that don't have sex scenes, if that's what you're trying to avoid.

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Post by Steinherz » Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:15 pm

Rudz wrote:As has also been previously discussed, it is a shame that other VN's and Dating Sim's give this kind of genre a bit of a bad name. I'll admit, to date, KS has been my one and only VN experience, simply because it was such a pure and good experience that has actually drawn me fully into the story, I don't want to try another incase it's just sexsexsexsexsexsexdialoguesexsexsexsexsex. It would ruin the idea of VN's for me. I can only imagine what a female would think...first off at the animé style art coupled with the fact that they are disabled sex scenes could give them the impression that it is just another hentai game for people with fetishes, which is mind-numbingly far from the truth
That's why you go with the Visual Novels in the VN recommendation thread :p
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Post by Atario » Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:30 am

wazuzu wrote:Okay, writing down: "Atario is raging racist and anti-Darwinist", amirite?
Well, sure. We all are. Haven't you heard? Cultural prejudices are genetic!
I am not going further with this, because the consequences can be severe.
Gee, I wonder why…
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Post by Potato » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:29 am

wazuzu wrote:It's genetically imprinted in our conscience. Broken ones are exiles in most societies.
In what universe is conscience genetic? Which part of our DNA is responsible for wise-cracking devils on our shoulders?
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Post by Rudz » Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:56 am

Kyler Thatch wrote: I think there was a thread around here for VN recommendations? I'm sure someone can point to a couple of good ones that don't have sex scenes, if that's what you're trying to avoid.
I don't mind a few sex scenes, just as long as it wasn't all about 'getting laid' and there was some kind of emotional reason behind it all :)
Steinherz wrote:That's why you go with the Visual Novels in the VN recommendation thread :p
Thanks for the recommendation guys, I'm new here so wasn't aware of it. I will give it a look!=D
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Post by Steinherz » Sat Jan 25, 2014 4:33 pm

Rudz wrote:
Kyler Thatch wrote: I think there was a thread around here for VN recommendations? I'm sure someone can point to a couple of good ones that don't have sex scenes, if that's what you're trying to avoid.
I don't mind a few sex scenes, just as long as it wasn't all about 'getting laid' and there was some kind of emotional reason behind it all :)
Steinherz wrote:That's why you go with the Visual Novels in the VN recommendation thread :p
Thanks for the recommendation guys, I'm new here so wasn't aware of it. I will give it a look!=D
There's a few ways you can tell if a VN is mostly about sex:
-The Visual Novel DataBase (VNDB) will say how much sexual content (if any) is in the VN.
-Look at the length of the VN on VNDB. VN's under a certain length (under 10 hours) are more inclined to be about sex (but not always)
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Post by wazuzu » Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:46 am

Oh my fucking god, you're so... Tolerant.

Here, have a read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_choice
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There's absolutely no meaning in his statement made after my post, so there's no meaning in my post following his statement about my post. It's okay in the internet.
I thought I'd ask him how the fuck did he derive his statement based on my post as his homework, but according to the way he writes he'll just skip that and call me something rude.

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Post by Atario » Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:48 pm

wazuzu wrote:Here, have a read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_choice
I think my favorite part of that article is where it mentions disabilities. Oh wait. No. It doesn't. I mean, my favorite part is where it talks about humans: women choosing men who are the most unlike themselves, according to microbiological criteria based on subconscious scent signals. Which is totally the same thing.

But I'm sure you, being the expert in human evolutionary psychology, will be back shortly to tell me where I'm wrong, as are all people everywhere who are, or have ever been, in love with disabled people.
I thought I'd ask him how the fuck did he derive his statement based on my post as his homework, but according to the way he writes he'll just skip that and call me something rude.
Whoa, where's my magnifier…
I thought I'd ask him how the fuck did he derive his statement based on my post as his homework, but according to the way he writes he'll just skip that and call me something rude.
Ah, that's better.

Well, see, I've been arguing online more than long enough to recognize when someone is Sure He Has The Truth™. I find there to be little point in trying to convince the unconvincible. So instead I merely attempt to entertain myself, and where possible, onlookers. Not saying the attempt is always successful, but hey.

As for calling someone something rude, I believe you're the only one who's done that so far, chum. Might want to reread the thread and then think a bit.
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Post by TheVUP » Sun Jan 26, 2014 10:55 pm

wazuzu wrote:
TheVUP wrote:I'm not sure I'm following you guys.
There's absolutely no meaning in his statement made after my post, so there's no meaning in my post following his statement about my post. It's okay in the internet.
I don't understand what are you two arguing about.
I mean, what the hell did Darwin have to do with my thread?

But whatever, just don't pollute this thread okay?
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