I failed Rin?!

A forum for general discussion of the game: Open to all punters
Vigil
Posts: 4
Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:47 am

I failed Rin?!

Post by Vigil » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:23 pm

I was hoping to make my first post on less of an impulse but this is really getting to me.

After completing the first 4 girls successfully (not sure about Hanako, that wasn't a totally happy ending) I decided to finally
give Rin a try. (SPOILERS) About halfway through, after Hisao spends the night at the atelier, he gets mad when Rin refuses
to acknowledge his feelings again and a 3-way decision pops up (I need to understand / then explain / it doesn't matter).
After choosing Then explain, it gets even worse and Hisao decides he can't get to Rin and just gives up.
Credits.

I was SHOCKED! I mean, I thought that to completely fail a girl you had to make some obviously dumb decision or multiple
subpar ones in a row. This particular decision seemed like an important one, but I felt the first option sounded egoistical, and
the third was the wrong kind of attitude, an uncaring one. That left the second, which I hoped would lead
to Rin at least trying to explain even if she thought it wouldn't make sense. Was that naive?

I feel kind of silly asking for some sort of reassurance, but I worked so hard to get closer to Rin and
now it's all been for naught. Where did I go wrong?

User avatar
Oddball
Posts: 2763
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:05 pm

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Oddball » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:27 pm

I'm not going to tell you what to do right because that takes the sense of accomplishment put of it when you do succeed, but when you make a mistake, you need to go back over your choices and think about what they mean, not just from your own point of view, but from hers.

I'll give you this hint though, look at the last choice you made there. You told her to explain herself. Think about that for a minute.
Not Dead Yet

User avatar
dewelar
Posts: 1228
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:09 pm
Location: The Fifth Thing

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by dewelar » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:30 pm

Not naive so much as just...dense, maybe? You asked her to do the one thing she's told you repeatedly she can't do properly: express herself with words. Bad Hisao.
Rin is orthogonal to everything.
Stuff I've written: Developments, a continuation of Lilly's (bad? neutral?) ending - COMPLETE!

Guest Poster
Posts: 1266
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2012 12:42 am

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Guest Poster » Mon Sep 23, 2013 1:40 pm

(not sure about Hanako, that wasn't a totally happy ending)
If the game just ended after Hisao went to see Hanako in her room, you got the neutral ending rather than the good one.
Sisterhood: True Edition. Hanako epilogue I wrote. Now expanded with additional chapters.

User avatar
Shockproof Jamo
Posts: 155
Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:30 pm

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Shockproof Jamo » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:06 pm

Dem feels, bro. Rin is Hard-mode, so don't feel bad. The choices on her path are deliberately deceptive, and I must shamefully admit that I fell for them. I too went trough both the bad and neutral ends first, before I got to the good one. Some of the choices simply feel too much like pure guess work, which I guess is in line with the path's theme, since you're not supposed to "get" Rin. But it felt so humiliating, since I managed to get all the other girl's good endings on my first go without any guides.

User avatar
Mirage_GSM
Posts: 5869
Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:24 am
Location: Germany

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Mirage_GSM » Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:21 pm

Well, most choices in Rin's path don't have any meaning anyway.
The only choices that are really important are the one you mentioned and the very last one. All the others are just a very complicated way to determine which of two scenes you get to see somewhen in Act... 3 I think.
I have another gripe with the choice you mentioned, but since you're not done with the path yet, I'll refrain from mentioning it here.
Emi > Misha > Hanako > Lilly > Rin > Shizune

My collected KS-Fan Fictions: Mirage's Myths
griffon8 wrote:Kosher, just because sex is your answer to everything doesn't mean that sex is the answer to everything.
Sore wa himitsu desu.

Vigil
Posts: 4
Joined: Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:47 am

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Vigil » Mon Sep 23, 2013 5:13 pm

Oddball wrote:I'm not going to tell you what to do right because that takes the sense of accomplishment put of it when you do succeed, but when you make a mistake, you need to go back over your choices and think about what they mean, not just from your own point of view, but from hers.

I'll give you this hint though, look at the last choice you made there. You told her to explain herself. Think about that for a minute.
Wow :oops: That's how it works? Ouch.

I figured the results of the decisions were based on the implication of your choice, but I didn't expect to get punished THAT severely...

User avatar
Sea
Posts: 778
Joined: Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:07 am
Location: Toronto

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Sea » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:13 pm

For future use, going in blind I save before every choice, it works out ok.
Come join the Yamaku Book Club! Where stuff happens and we discuss cripple porn
I come from the outside, do you know it?

User avatar
Xanatos
Posts: 5365
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:40 pm

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Xanatos » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:20 pm

Vigil wrote:
Oddball wrote:I'm not going to tell you what to do right because that takes the sense of accomplishment put of it when you do succeed, but when you make a mistake, you need to go back over your choices and think about what they mean, not just from your own point of view, but from hers.

I'll give you this hint though, look at the last choice you made there. You told her to explain herself. Think about that for a minute.
Wow :oops: That's how it works? Ouch.

I figured the results of the decisions were based on the implication of your choice, but I didn't expect to get punished THAT severely...
Hey, at least you didn't get Rin's other bad ending. :lol: It's a lot worse in the moment, though the one you got is the worst overall.
<KeiichiO>: "I wonder what Misha's WAHAHA's sound like with a cock stuffed down her throat..."
<Ascension>: "I laughed, cried, vomited in my mouth a little, and even had time for marshmallows afterwards. Well played, Xanatos. Well played."
<KeiichiO>: "That's a beautiful response to chocolate."

User avatar
Xanatos
Posts: 5365
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:40 pm

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Xanatos » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:12 am

rterman wrote:You can take consolation in the fact that (according to Aura) Rin does not in fact kill herself.
She does to me. :lol:
<KeiichiO>: "I wonder what Misha's WAHAHA's sound like with a cock stuffed down her throat..."
<Ascension>: "I laughed, cried, vomited in my mouth a little, and even had time for marshmallows afterwards. Well played, Xanatos. Well played."
<KeiichiO>: "That's a beautiful response to chocolate."

User avatar
HarvestmanMan
Posts: 285
Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:35 pm
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio, 'Murica
Contact:

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by HarvestmanMan » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:16 am

Xanatos wrote:
rterman wrote:You can take consolation in the fact that (according to Aura) Rin does not in fact kill herself.
She does to me. :lol:
Metaphorical suicide?
Current Number of Fanfics Cooked: 2

User avatar
Xanatos
Posts: 5365
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:40 pm

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Xanatos » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:33 am

HarvestmanMan wrote:
Xanatos wrote:
rterman wrote:You can take consolation in the fact that (according to Aura) Rin does not in fact kill herself.
She does to me. :lol:
Metaphorical suicide?
Literal. Metaphorical is in her "neutral" end.
<KeiichiO>: "I wonder what Misha's WAHAHA's sound like with a cock stuffed down her throat..."
<Ascension>: "I laughed, cried, vomited in my mouth a little, and even had time for marshmallows afterwards. Well played, Xanatos. Well played."
<KeiichiO>: "That's a beautiful response to chocolate."

Notguest
Posts: 204
Joined: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:56 pm

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Notguest » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:03 pm

I too got the good endings for every route on the first try except for Rin. That one decision is pretty tricky. But luckily, I managed on the second try.

User avatar
Dream
Posts: 632
Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:05 am

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by Dream » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:57 am

The decisions in Rin's route for me were not only hard in the sense that i honestly had no idea what the choices entailed (like OP i also lost my "all good endings in the first run" record with Rin) but in that, due to the thematics and dilemmas presented within it, i had honestly no idea of what my answer to those questions were.

A great part of what made Rin's route so significant for me was the fact that the route was constantly bringing up elements that i very rarely consider and which ended up forcing me to consider certain aspects of my personal philosophy.
"It is not reason, more or less furnished, but will that makes the world march"

"Unfortunately, if you can think of something really stupid, someone out there probably believes it." -Xanatos

voyance
Posts: 10
Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:43 pm

Re: I failed Rin?!

Post by voyance » Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:56 pm

I fell victim to this too. It hurt me a little. I know she can't use the right words but I personally would feel the same was as Hisao did, PO'd.

I guess my 3rd blind ending is this one...So, I had the manly picnic, then Emi's good end, now this. That makes 2 bad and 1 good.
BTW, it hurt a little to find Emi and Hisao not have any connection until I realized it was a completely new game/world

Post Reply