The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by Lianam » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:04 pm

YZQ wrote:What Hisao didn't get is that her father's death and her losing her legs is connected. Or that her father was dead in the first place.
HOW COULD HE NOT GET THAT?!?!? Honestly, it was kinda obvious... no offense Hivemind.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by YZQ » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:10 pm

My guess that Hisao is still a bit self-absorbed with his new condition and situation.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by Xanatos » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:15 pm

Lianam wrote:Oh come on- if Hisao wasn't as thick, he'd figured out Emi's past long, LONG before he did- right about the time everyone else did.
I don't recall him having much trouble figuring out her past. He figures she lost her legs as soon as she appears and figures out her father's gone as soon as it's hinted at by the mother. What he doesn't figure out is why Emi's so ridiculously distant and overly-defensive about it all and she doesn't exactly help him with that, what with being an avoidant bitch all the time. :P

@YZQ: Not sure "Her husband died in a horrible accident" is the first thought of anyone upon seeing a mother alone somewhere. :lol:
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by YZQ » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:16 pm

Ok, not the "alone" part, but the sadness whenever the father is mentioned.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by Xanatos » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:46 pm

YZQ wrote:Ok, not the "alone" part, but the sadness whenever the father is mentioned.
Pretty sure he figured that part out. "He died." just doesn't answer much, hence his repeated prying and questions. The details are what he kept getting after (and never getting, until the good end) because no mere death would cause all this trauma.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by YZQ » Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:32 pm

It's something Hisao couldn't exactly relate to, as he wasn't that close to his folks. So yeah, the possibility that Emi was very close to her dad didn't occur to him.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by pandaphil » Sat Dec 21, 2013 1:00 am

Well if he figured it out early on, there wouldn't be as much impact at the end now would there.

And its enturely possible Emi parents could have blamed each other for the accident that took Emi's legs and seperated as a result.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by Steinherz » Sat Dec 21, 2013 3:21 am

pandaphil wrote:Well if he figured it out early on, there wouldn't be as much impact at the end now would there.
Actually there's a very good chance he figured out the connection between Emi's legs and her father's death earlier than everyone thinks. Hisao doesn't seem to surprised when Emi takes him to a graveyard to visit her father.
Plus Hisao is only dense when it seems to come to his relationships with the girls. Anything else he's pretty damn intelligent about it.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by pandaphil » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:37 am

Steinherz wrote:
pandaphil wrote:Well if he figured it out early on, there wouldn't be as much impact at the end now would there.
Actually there's a very good chance he figured out the connection between Emi's legs and her father's death earlier than everyone thinks. Hisao doesn't seem to surprised when Emi takes him to a graveyard to visit her father.
Plus Hisao is only dense when it seems to come to his relationships with the girls. Anything else he's pretty damn intelligent about it.
Yeah, that makes sense.

And I think most guys are a little dense when it comes to women. But you gotta give him credit, he had the sex thing figured out almost right from the start.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by Steinherz » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:11 am

pandaphil wrote: But you gotta give him credit, he had the sex thing figured out almost right from the start.
He's the protagonist of an Eroge-ish Visual Novel. Being surprisingly skilled in the carnal pleasures despite being a virgin comes naturally to them. :lol:
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by Blasphemy » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:53 pm

Steinherz wrote:
pandaphil wrote:Well if he figured it out early on, there wouldn't be as much impact at the end now would there.
Actually there's a very good chance he figured out the connection between Emi's legs and her father's death earlier than everyone thinks. Hisao doesn't seem to surprised when Emi takes him to a graveyard to visit her father.
The problem is that if we assume he had figured this out relatively early, then I can't see a good justification as to why he never mentions it. After all this is from a first person perspective and Hisao's thoughts are never kept a secret from us. In fact, he's really observant about this kind of stuff and narrates it accordingly.

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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by Steinherz » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:01 pm

Blasphemy wrote:
Steinherz wrote:
pandaphil wrote:Well if he figured it out early on, there wouldn't be as much impact at the end now would there.
Actually there's a very good chance he figured out the connection between Emi's legs and her father's death earlier than everyone thinks. Hisao doesn't seem to surprised when Emi takes him to a graveyard to visit her father.
The problem is that if we assume he had figured this out relatively early, then I can't see a good justification as to why he never mentions it. After all this is from a first person perspective and Hisao's thoughts are never kept a secret from us. In fact, he's really observant about this kind of stuff and narrates it accordingly.
Ah but that's the thing. His thoughts reflect himself more than those around him.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by YZQ » Sat Dec 21, 2013 10:25 pm

Another thing: Hisao is terrible with English.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by Oddball » Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:53 am

I thought I remembered Hisao saying something about having an idea what happened but not wanting to say anything until he was sure.
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Re: The wrong reaction to a grave mistake.

Post by Lianam » Sun Dec 22, 2013 11:32 pm

pandaphil wrote:And I think most guys are a little dense when it comes to women.
Women are like jellyfish to us. We don't understand them.

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