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Umbra wrote: After having a long ass discussion on KS and MBTI with my friend, I have to agree with you, she is an ESFJ. I didn't really think this one through. Oh, and he convinced me to make some other changes:

Hanako is an ISFP
Rin is an INFP

which really seem to fit them better.

After researching into S/N a little bit harder (which I admit, I haven't done as much as I should have before) , I've concluded that you are correct about Rin, she surely is an INFP. Funnily enough, that makes us the same, which both scares the shit out of and confuses me. Sure, I share each preference in function, but Rin, RIN, the same as me? I never felt like I could relate to her that whole time.
I am still conflicted over Hanako as S or N but I'll take your word for it. On P, however, I tend to disagree. Check back to ProfAllister on his analysis from the other thread he linked to, that summed up pretty well why J is dominant. ISFJ, or the Nurturer, is the same as Lilly. Coincidence?

Side Note: If your friend is a KS fan and informed on MBTI, do you think you could get him to post his thoughts on the forums?

Rrgh, I hate this test, mostly because it can't seem to decide whether I'm INTP, ISFJ, or INTJ!

TehLandshark wrote:

Umbra wrote: After having a long ass discussion on KS and MBTI with my friend, I have to agree with you, she is an ESFJ. I didn't really think this one through. Oh, and he convinced me to make some other changes:

Hanako is an ISFP
Rin is an INFP

which really seem to fit them better.

After researching into S/N a little bit harder (which I admit, I haven't done as much as I should have before) , I've concluded that you are correct about Rin, she surely is an INFP. Funnily enough, that makes us the same, which both scares the shit out of and confuses me. Sure, I share each preference in function, but Rin, RIN, the same as me? I never felt like I could relate to her that whole time.
I am still conflicted over Hanako as S or N but I'll take your word for it. On P, however, I tend to disagree. Check back to ProfAllister on his analysis from the other thread he linked to, that summed up pretty well why J is dominant. ISFJ, or the Nurturer, is the same as Lilly. Coincidence?

Side Note: If your friend is a KS fan and informed on MBTI, do you think you could get him to post his thoughts on the forums?

Well, I doubt I'd be able to convince him to post on the forums, he's not a very social person, although he has a mind like no other (he is a borderline INTP, btw.)

Considering he agrees with me on many choices, his list would be such:

Hisao: ISTP
Lilly: ISFJ
Hanako: ISFP
Rin: INFP
Emi: ESFJ
Shizune: ESTJ
Misha: ESFP
Kenji: INTJ

and he has really strong arguments for each one. He spends a lot of time solving any mental task. I mean, it's practically impossible to win against him in a discussion, because most of the time he just is right.

Umbra wrote:

TehLandshark wrote:

Umbra wrote: After having a long ass discussion on KS and MBTI with my friend, I have to agree with you, she is an ESFJ. I didn't really think this one through. Oh, and he convinced me to make some other changes:

Hanako is an ISFP
Rin is an INFP

which really seem to fit them better.

After researching into S/N a little bit harder (which I admit, I haven't done as much as I should have before) , I've concluded that you are correct about Rin, she surely is an INFP. Funnily enough, that makes us the same, which both scares the shit out of and confuses me. Sure, I share each preference in function, but Rin, RIN, the same as me? I never felt like I could relate to her that whole time.
I am still conflicted over Hanako as S or N but I'll take your word for it. On P, however, I tend to disagree. Check back to ProfAllister on his analysis from the other thread he linked to, that summed up pretty well why J is dominant. ISFJ, or the Nurturer, is the same as Lilly. Coincidence?

Side Note: If your friend is a KS fan and informed on MBTI, do you think you could get him to post his thoughts on the forums?

Well, I doubt I'd be able to convince him to post on the forums, he's not a very social person, although he has a mind like no other (he is a borderline INTP, btw.)

Considering he agrees with me on many choices, his list would be such:

Hisao: ISTP
Lilly: ISFJ
Hanako: ISFP
Rin: INFP
Emi: ESFJ
Shizune: ESTJ
Misha: ESFP
Kenji: INTJ

and he has really strong arguments for each one. He spends a lot of time solving any mental task. I mean, it's practically impossible to win against him in a discussion, because most of the time he just is right.

A mind like no other and intp who thinks MBTI is legitimate? That's a new one.
I'd like to see him come on the forums, but if he isn't that much of a social butterfly, I don't blame him.

I'm not willing to debate Misha (because I can practically understand Rin better than the craziness she is), and I can agree with the majority of that list, but I have 2 disagreements. What suggests that Hanako is P, and what suggest that Hisao is T?

Anything deviating from the plan results in "I'vegottogodosomething!" for poor Hanako.

ISTP's have Introverted Thinking as their Dominant function, while ISFP's have Introverted Feeling as a Dominant function. We can see Hisao's thoughts, so it is extremely, extremely obvious that he takes the subjunctive into account far more than the objective. Hisao is ISFP without question.

On a side note, when re-doing a Hanako scene, I just saw Hisao call her "very intuitive." Not really the intuition we're talking about, but thought it was worth mentioning.

Something a bit less technical and more fun. Has anyone tried filling out one of these for any of the girls?

Don't mean to threadjack, but I'm always a bit wary of starting a new thread here if one that's even remotely similar is already present. Our Mod scares me.

I've gone ahead and estimated Hanako's. Anyone else?

pandaphil wrote:I've gone ahead and estimated Hanako's. Anyone else?

Wouldn't her artistic skill be at least above a two? She did mention she liked to karaoke. Or Lilly mentioned that about her. Someone did at least, of that I'm certain. Other than that though the rest seems reasonable.

SpecimenSix wrote:

pandaphil wrote:I've gone ahead and estimated Hanako's. Anyone else?

Wouldn't her artistic skill be at least above a two? She did mention she liked to karaoke. Or Lilly mentioned that about her. Someone did at least, of that I'm certain. Other than that though the rest seems reasonable.

Good point. I'd forgotten that. Plus being such an avid reader, she might have a talent for writing as well. So I went ahead and bumped up her Artistic Skill score.

I had wondered whether her social skills were too high. But it sounds like she does okay with children and teachers. It's just people in her own age group that frighten her.

SpecimenSix wrote:

pandaphil wrote:I've gone ahead and estimated Hanako's. Anyone else?

Wouldn't her artistic skill be at least above a two? She did mention she liked to karaoke. Or Lilly mentioned that about her. Someone did at least, of that I'm certain. Other than that though the rest seems reasonable.

Karaoke is not necessarily an artistic skill. Anyone can sing along poorly to a song.

Hanako was mentioned to be pretty observant in her route, though...

Also, i love how "Looks" is set to high and "sex life" is set to zero

Dream wrote:Hanako was mentioned to be pretty observant in her route, though...

Also, i love how "Looks" is set to high and "sex life" is set to zero

Well, that's why I asked for input. So okay, I knocked her "Looks" down a notch. Though as far as anyone knows, she doesn't have a sex life.

Hoping someone else will join in with charts for the other girls.

Oh, I don't think Dream was saying there was anything wrong with those two ratings, just that it's an amusing juxtaposition. I do think your original rating of her looks was probably more accurate; she's well above average, I would give her an 8 or maybe a 9 rather than 7.

But yeah, this is a fun ranking style you've found for us. Looking forward to seeing the other characters scored.

Dr. Casey wrote:Oh, I don't think Dream was saying there was anything wrong with those two ratings, just that it's an amusing juxtaposition. I do think your original rating of her looks was probably more accurate; she's well above average, I would give her an 8 or maybe a 9 rather than 7.

But yeah, this is a fun ranking style you've found for us. Looking forward to seeing the other characters scored.

Thanks for the support. I had knocked off a point as suggested because of her scars. But then it occurred to me that I didn't recall anyone ever actually commenting on them in the story. She was always "That really shy girl". So I'm guess they were probably a lot worse when she was younger and was treated so badly as a result.

As much as I would rather have this be another thread, I felt that this was necessary to contribute.
Lilly.

TehLandshark wrote:As much as I would rather have this be another thread, I felt that this was necessary to contribute.
Lilly.

Somehow I knew somebody was going to give her a zero in looks.

I'd say she has more morality than just average though. I'd consider her to have relatively high moral standards, from the proper way she carries herself and strict background if nothing else.