The most likely to become an emotionally abusive mother?

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Well?

Hanako. The bullied becomes the bully.
10
18%
Emi. Years of ignoring her issues causes them to spill over in the worst possible way.
11
20%
Shizune. Loneliness wrecks her mental health.
17
31%
Lilly. She... um... resents having a wonderful life?
4
7%
Rin. Driven insane by loneliness and isolation.
5
9%
Misha. Hateful towards the child that does not belong to Shizune, that she created with someone she loves far less.
8
15%
 
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pandaphil wrote:
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Yeah, it probably would have been, but my confidence (and everything else) was too low to even manage that. :lol: I gotta get shit together this year...
I hear ya man. I've been out of work since June. :(


But really, the best thing to happen to Hanako would be for her to start getting articles published, or even get a babysitting gig in the neighborhood.
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Xanatos wrote:"At least I can have a sister now..."
Another reason for our love/hate relationship, Xan...
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Umber wrote:
Xanatos wrote:"At least I can have a sister now..."
Another reason for our love/hate relationship, Xan...
Love you too, waifu! :mrgreen:
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I think a babysitter is not exactly the first job I'll recommend to Hanako. Something with less responsibility will be better.
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YZQ wrote:I think a babysitter is not exactly the first job I'll recommend to Hanako. Something with less responsibility will be better.
It's not like she doesn't have experience. Hanako did mention she used to help out with the younger children at the orphanage.
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Was gonna vote Shizune, but Misha's choice was too good
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Oddball wrote:
YZQ wrote:I think a babysitter is not exactly the first job I'll recommend to Hanako. Something with less responsibility will be better.
It's not like she doesn't have experience. Hanako did mention she used to help out with the younger children at the orphanage.

My thoughts exactly. I could see her relaxing and beign more open around children.. The hard part of course would be the initial interview with the parents.
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Well, we're not told the extent of her help back in the orphanage. That, and the expectation some folks have of babysitters. But, Phil nailed it with the interview comment.
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pandaphil wrote: Nice summation there.

I'm not sure how much of a "helicopter mom" Lilly would likely be though. Isn't she the one who warned Hisao to back off from Hanako and let her breathe during her route?

And yeah, Rin wouldn't be so much an abusive mother, as a neglectful one. How easy would it be for her to get distracted and just forget about the child. Definitely a bad thing if they're outside or in public at the time.

Otoh she did indicate several times in her arc that she knew she had a problem, and would like to understand people better. So I can see Hisao, or any other partner easily being able to convince her to get professional help. Either with medication or therapy.
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Lilly did stop herself, true, but it took an extreme amount of time and effort for her to ultimately decide what was best. Even then, she still left the decision up to Hisao and wouldn't take responsibility herself. Without driving her children to the point of being Hanakos stuck in their rooms going mad, Lilly would probably be that sort of intrusive parent and I can see that getting abusive.

I personally think that neglect is a form of abuse. Kids need to learn how to love others and form meaningful relationships, and Rin isn't able to connect in that way with others.

I sure hope that there would be a way to help her, but I can't know of that myself.
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Rin would probably have a hard time being a mother even if she wasn't neglectful. She can feed herself with her feet, but I don't see her successfully feeding an infant with her feet :?
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Kenji would be the worst mother...
(A) Not a woman
(B) Killed his best friend (maybe)
(C) God forbid he have a daughter...
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Omega wrote:Kenji would be the worst mother...
(A) Not a woman
(B) Killed his best friend (maybe)
(C) God forbid he have a daughter...
Kenji would teach his son about the dangers of feminists
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Lilly did stop herself, true, but it took an extreme amount of time and effort for her to ultimately decide what was best. Even then, she still left the decision up to Hisao and wouldn't take responsibility herself. Without driving her children to the point of being Hanakos stuck in their rooms going mad, Lilly would probably be that sort of intrusive parent and I can see that getting abusive.
Of course she left the decision up to Hisao. He was the one in the situation and she was merely the one he approached for advice. What was she supposed to do from Inverness? It was never her issue to take responsibility for.

I can't really see Lilly become an intrusive parent because that's not her approach to dealing with people in general. Shizune's the one who likes to be in control and favors a hands-on approach where she controls all the factors. Lilly prefers to subtly steer people towards reaching the right conclusions on their own. An example can be seen after Hanako's birthday party. After putting Hanako to bed, Hisao lets out a statement to Lilly that suggests his attitude towards Hanako is getting unhealthy. Rather than give him a scolding or confront him with his own statement, Lilly arranges that jazz bar outing in the hopes of getting Hisao to see Hanako in a different light. You can't say that kind of approach is intrusive.
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Guest Poster wrote:
Lilly did stop herself, true, but it took an extreme amount of time and effort for her to ultimately decide what was best. Even then, she still left the decision up to Hisao and wouldn't take responsibility herself. Without driving her children to the point of being Hanakos stuck in their rooms going mad, Lilly would probably be that sort of intrusive parent and I can see that getting abusive.
Of course she left the decision up to Hisao. He was the one in the situation and she was merely the one he approached for advice. What was she supposed to do from Inverness? It was never her issue to take responsibility for.

I can't really see Lilly become an intrusive parent because that's not her approach to dealing with people in general. Shizune's the one who likes to be in control and favors a hands-on approach where she controls all the factors. Lilly prefers to subtly steer people towards reaching the right conclusions on their own. An example can be seen after Hanako's birthday party. After putting Hanako to bed, Hisao lets out a statement to Lilly that suggests his attitude towards Hanako is getting unhealthy. Rather than give him a scolding or confront him with his own statement, Lilly arranges that jazz bar outing in the hopes of getting Hisao to see Hanako in a different light. You can't say that kind of approach is intrusive.
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Jobriq wrote:Rin would probably have a hard time being a mother even if she wasn't neglectful. She can feed herself with her feet, but I don't see her successfully feeding an infant with her feet :?
I'd imagine that her husband would help with those issues, hopefully.
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