Your first ending?

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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Steinherz » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:01 pm

Emi's good end for me.
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I have to agree on this. Also, Hisao's comment there was most likely a case of "unintentional stupidity". In other words, at that point he didn't know about Emi's father being deceased but after it he probably figured it out. People forget Hisao isn't a total idiot, just dense at times.
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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Xanatos » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:10 pm

Steinherz wrote:In other words, at that point he didn't know about Emi's father being deceased but after it he probably figured it out. People forget Hisao isn't a total idiot, just dense at times.
Hadn't she already mentioned he was dead by that point?

@Hans: Um...Isn't the way onto Emi's path the exact opposite of common sense? Something about a guy with arrhythmia trying to race a track star... :lol:
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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Steinherz » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:12 pm

Xanatos wrote:
Steinherz wrote:In other words, at that point he didn't know about Emi's father being deceased but after it he probably figured it out. People forget Hisao isn't a total idiot, just dense at times.
Hadn't she already mentioned he was dead by that point?
If I recall correctly Emi doesn't tell him until they go to "meet" him. She does have a nightmare and she says something about her father, but that's it (I may be wrong here)
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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Xanatos » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:21 pm

Steinherz wrote:
Xanatos wrote:
Steinherz wrote:In other words, at that point he didn't know about Emi's father being deceased but after it he probably figured it out. People forget Hisao isn't a total idiot, just dense at times.
Hadn't she already mentioned he was dead by that point?
If I recall correctly Emi doesn't tell him until they go to "meet" him. She does have a nightmare and she says something about her father, but that's it (I may be wrong here)
Well, if she hadn't told him yet, I have to believe he's a fucking idiot for not knowing anyway. I figured it out from the nightmares if not earlier. :lol: I mean, really...When he meets Meiko at the track meet, she gets all sad when the father comes up. Outright says he isn't around anymore. It's fairly obvious even then. I mean, he could assume there was just a shitty divorce or something but then who has nightmares over their father's divorce?
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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Hans PK » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:22 pm

Alas, I tend to forget minor details like the biggest thing that gets you onto Emi's path. Excuse me. stupid, stupid, stupid...

And no, Hisao never gets exact confirmation of her father's death until the cemetery, but it's made pretty obvious that her father's no longer around about halfway into her route and slightly tests my suspension of disbelief.
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Re: Your first ending?

Post by baggypantsman » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:06 pm

I got Lilly's good ending on my first try. It was probably the first thing in a few years to (almost) make me cry.

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Re: Your first ending?

Post by KeiichiO » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:09 pm

Emi's good end. Very nice way to end the story; though, I felt it left you begging for more. Looking at Emi's naked body as the last image in the route was a bit of a tease :P

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Re: Your first ending?

Post by HLGU » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:10 pm

Emi. I did intend to go on her path from the beginning, but wasn't sure I was going on her path.
her good ending. I did indeed intend to see her good ending, but wasn't sure I was going to see the good ending.

yah it all surprisingly worked out well.

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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Umber » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:19 pm

KeiichiO wrote:Emi's good end. Very nice way to end the story; though, I felt it left you begging for more.
And that's when we realized there was a 'Very Good End'.
KeiichiO wrote:Looking at Emi's naked body as the last image in the route was a bit of a tease :P
It was a a mix between a good ending and a cliffhanger, for me. Not sure why it felt that way, but, as you stated earlier, it did provide a comfortable (but not satiating) ending.
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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Oddball » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:40 pm

My first THREE endings were all Hanako's in order from worst to best.

I didn't even know there was a Kenji ending until I decided to try playing the game and purposely alienating everyone just to see what happened.

As for Hisao not figuring out what happened to Emi's dad, I seem to recall him thinking something along the lines of "something happened to her father and I'm pretty sure I know what, but I don't want to say anything," long before the final reveal.
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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Barfman1 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:18 pm

I'm pretty sure almost everyone got Emi's good ending on their first try. I don't know why, but it seems whoever I ask had that as their first.

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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Caden Tiksaril » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:21 pm

I'm in a similar boat with ShadeHaven. I was forced into following Emi at her house and thought I had entered the bad ending, so I backtracked. However, I did that before finding out that I still had a chance to get the good ending by talking to Misha. So technically the first ending I got was Emi's good ending, but it wasn't a "pure" playthrough to begin with. >.<
Oddball wrote:As for Hisao not figuring out what happened to Emi's dad, I seem to recall him thinking something along the lines of "something happened to her father and I'm pretty sure I know what, but I don't want to say anything," long before the final reveal.
That happens like once, in "Saving Throw", which is not long before the final reveal at all. I can see why the line is in there, but if you ask me that whole concept needed to come up more often, and much earlier, to really be effective, especially since the route's actual conflict is supposed to be Hisao convincing Emi that it's okay to let others get close to you and not simply figuring out what happened to her father. Because Hisao's approach to theorizing what happened to her father wasn't addressed that much, it didn't seem as readily apparent as it should have been (not that you couldn't tell at all, of course) that the previous spoiler was supposed to be the actual conflict, if you ask me.
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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Command13 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:47 pm

My first was Lilly's good ending, honestly I almost screwed it up completely but managed to avoid my Derp messing the route up. :roll: Lilly quickly became my favorite, with Hanako being a painfully close second. Gah I like all the characters, don't make me pick.

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Re: Your first ending?

Post by muliebrity » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:03 pm

Barfman1 wrote:I'm pretty sure almost everyone got Emi's good ending on their first try. I don't know why, but it seems whoever I ask had that as their first.
I also got Emi's good ending first, and I don't really get why people are accusing Hisao of idiot ball ownership. In fact, the reason I got that ending at all was that I chose what I thought the most reasonable choices. Heart defect requires exercise to improve likelihood of survival past 20? Then exercise you dumb git! Girl interested in helping motivate you and becoming friends? Why the hell not? Girl clearly wants to be alone? Don't follow her, it's not like she's going to explode, just to cool off! I only got that ending by doing what a reasonable person in Hisao's situation would do.
Oddball wrote:As for Hisao not figuring out what happened to Emi's dad, I seem to recall him thinking something along the lines of "something happened to her father and I'm pretty sure I know what, but I don't want to say anything," long before the final reveal.
Yes, these thoughts definitely came up early enough to save Hisao from idiot status. Rather, he earns tactful status.
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Re: Your first ending?

Post by Xanatos » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:42 pm

muliebrity wrote:Yes, these thoughts definitely came up early enough to save Hisao from idiot status. Rather, he earns tactful status.
Except he wasn't tactful and he was an idiot...At least in one ending.
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