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KeiichiO
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by KeiichiO » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:09 am
pandaphil wrote:What's always struck me as odd was how in movies, tv shows, and even VN's, blind women as always portrayed as these ethereal, almost angellic creatures. Never quite understood that. Lilly's a prime example.
Hmm, interesting theory. Although, I haven't realized that in any media I've seen.
For example: Toph from Avatar the Last Airbender. (Yes, it's a Nickelodeon cartoon and it's one of my favorites so shut up!

) She's blind, but she's nothing like how you described. She's kind of a bad ass. She's also virtually the opposite of Lilly. She's very rude and doesn't really act like a lady and is more of a tomboy.
But I haven't seem very many blind characters in media, so I wouldn't know the stereotypes

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by Xanatos » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:12 am
KeiichiO wrote:pandaphil wrote:What's always struck me as odd was how in movies, tv shows, and even VN's, blind women as always portrayed as these ethereal, almost angellic creatures. Never quite understood that. Lilly's a prime example.
Hmm, interesting theory. Although, I haven't realized that in any media I've seen.
For example: Toph from Avatar the Last Airbender. (Yes, it's a Nickelodeon cartoon and it's one of my favorites so shut up!

) She's blind, but she's nothing like how you described. She's kind of a bad ass. She's also virtually the opposite of Lilly. She's very rude and doesn't really act like a lady and is more of a tomboy.
But I haven't seem very many blind characters in media, so I wouldn't know the stereotypes

Avatar's awesome...Both movies sucked.

Sequel series is good too.
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by KeiichiO » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:14 am
Xanatos wrote:KeiichiO wrote:pandaphil wrote:What's always struck me as odd was how in movies, tv shows, and even VN's, blind women as always portrayed as these ethereal, almost angellic creatures. Never quite understood that. Lilly's a prime example.
Hmm, interesting theory. Although, I haven't realized that in any media I've seen.
For example: Toph from Avatar the Last Airbender. (Yes, it's a Nickelodeon cartoon and it's one of my favorites so shut up!

) She's blind, but she's nothing like how you described. She's kind of a bad ass. She's also virtually the opposite of Lilly. She's very rude and doesn't really act like a lady and is more of a tomboy.
But I haven't seem very many blind characters in media, so I wouldn't know the stereotypes

Avatar's awesome...Both movies sucked.

Sequel series is good too.
Agree with you 100% my good sir.
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by pandaphil » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:16 am
Xanatos wrote:pandaphil wrote:What's always struck me as odd was how in movies, tv shows, and even VN's, blind women as always portrayed as these ethereal, almost angellic creatures. Never quite understood that. Lilly's a prime example.
Lilly is neither ethereal or angelic... O.o
Oh I dunno, tall, slender, with long flowing blonde hair, so very sweet and protective. seems pretty angellic to me.
It does seem to be at least an anime meme. The sweet, gentle blind girl. Or at least it used to be.
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by Carighan » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:32 am
pandaphil wrote:What's always struck me as odd was how in movies, tv shows, and even VN's, blind women as always portrayed as these ethereal, almost angellic creatures. Never quite understood that. Lilly's a prime example.
I thought the whole point of Suriko's writing was that it shows Lilly as this yamato nadeshiko, but then subverts it when you find out that it's just a learned persona. Much like Drill Misha. It misleads you with the trope.

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by Xanatos » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:35 am
pandaphil wrote:Xanatos wrote:pandaphil wrote:What's always struck me as odd was how in movies, tv shows, and even VN's, blind women as always portrayed as these ethereal, almost angellic creatures. Never quite understood that. Lilly's a prime example.
Lilly is neither ethereal or angelic... O.o
Oh I dunno, tall, slender, with long flowing blonde hair, so very sweet and protective. seems pretty angellic to me.
It does seem to be at least an anime meme. The sweet, gentle blind girl. Or at least it used to be.
Trope. Not meme. Entirely different.
Specifically, it's
Hair Of Gold, Heart Of Gold.
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by Selim Bradley » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:35 am
KeiichiO wrote:Xanatos wrote:KeiichiO wrote:
Hmm, interesting theory. Although, I haven't realized that in any media I've seen.
For example: Toph from Avatar the Last Airbender. (Yes, it's a Nickelodeon cartoon and it's one of my favorites so shut up!

) She's blind, but she's nothing like how you described. She's kind of a bad ass. She's also virtually the opposite of Lilly. She's very rude and doesn't really act like a lady and is more of a tomboy.
But I haven't seem very many blind characters in media, so I wouldn't know the stereotypes

Avatar's awesome...Both movies sucked.

Sequel series is good too.
Agree with you 100% my good sir.
I love Avatar: The Last Airbender and Avatar: The Legend of Korra(hurry up Seasons 2-4).
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by Xanatos » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:36 am
Selim Bradley wrote:I love Avatar: The Last Airbender and Avatar: The Legend of Korra(hurry up Seasons 2-4).
April's the rumored start of season two.
@Carighan: Exactly. Lilly's a subversion of the trope.
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by ReCodes » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:37 am
i must know: can blind people cry? like shedding tears??
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by Selim Bradley » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:39 am
Xanatos wrote:Selim Bradley wrote:I love Avatar: The Last Airbender and Avatar: The Legend of Korra(hurry up Seasons 2-4).
April's the rumored start of season two.
Ok. I figured sometime in Spring.
ReCodes wrote:i must know: can blind people cry? like shedding tears??
Yes, they can. The only parts of the eyes that are disabled for a blind person is the rods and cones inside, which gather light and transmit the data to the brain.
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by YZQ » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:49 am
Selim Bradley wrote:ReCodes wrote:i must know: can blind people cry? like shedding tears??
Yes, they can. The only parts of the eyes that are disabled for a blind person is the rods and cones inside, which gather light and transmit the data to the brain.
It depends, actually. Could be the retina, could be the part of the brain which processes such data. As long as one part malfunctions, the whole thing doesn't work.
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by Selim Bradley » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:51 am
YZQ wrote:Selim Bradley wrote:
Yes, they can. The only parts of the eyes that are disabled for a blind person is the rods and cones inside, which gather light and transmit the data to the brain.
It depends, actually. Could be the retina, could be the part of the brain which processes such data. As long as one part malfunctions, the whole thing doesn't work.
True, but either don't affect the tear ducts.
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by YZQ » Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:55 am
Selim Bradley wrote:YZQ wrote:Selim Bradley wrote:
Yes, they can. The only parts of the eyes that are disabled for a blind person is the rods and cones inside, which gather light and transmit the data to the brain.
It depends, actually. Could be the retina, could be the part of the brain which processes such data. As long as one part malfunctions, the whole thing doesn't work.
True, but either don't affect the tear ducts.
Yeah, tear ducts are usually not affected in many conditions which cause blindness.
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by FoxtrotZero » Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:17 am
YZQ wrote:Selim Bradley wrote:YZQ wrote:
It depends, actually. Could be the retina, could be the part of the brain which processes such data. As long as one part malfunctions, the whole thing doesn't work.
True, but either don't affect the tear ducts.
Yeah, tear ducts are usually not affected in many conditions which cause blindness.
The exception would probably be some sort of physical destruction of the eye (knife, fire, acid, shrapnel, you get the idea) that also destroyed the tear ducts, but that wouldn't be any more related to the blindness itself than the fact that they happened in the same incident
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by OtakuNinja » Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:40 am
KeiichiO wrote:pandaphil wrote:What's always struck me as odd was how in movies, tv shows, and even VN's, blind women as always portrayed as these ethereal, almost angellic creatures. Never quite understood that. Lilly's a prime example.
For example: Toph from Avatar the Last Airbender. (Yes, it's a Nickelodeon cartoon and it's one of my favorites so shut up!

) She's blind, but she's nothing like how you described. She's kind of a bad ass. She's also virtually the opposite of Lilly. She's very rude and doesn't really act like a lady and is more of a tomboy.
This.
Xanatos wrote:Avatar's awesome...Both movies sucked.

Sequel series is good too.
Both? I've only heard of one movie and it was, as you said, a failure.

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