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Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:47 pm
by AaronIsCrunchy
SpunkySix wrote:The very end of Emi's route. I teared up a few times before then, but the finality of knowing that it was over killed me at the end.
I teared up the first time when Emi's defenses just came crumbling after Hisao said 'I love you.' Just played through Emi's route again and... if anything I cried more at the same scene. I'm pretty damn sure that shouldn't happen o.O

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:02 pm
by Potato
icannotfindausername wrote:
SpunkySix wrote:The very end of Emi's route. I teared up a few times before then, but the finality of knowing that it was over killed me at the end.
Really? why so?
Like the part with her dad?
We all saw that coming five miles away ahead.
The part where she wakes up in the morning is pretty heart warming but for me the only part in Emi's arc that was emotional was when she slept on Hisao's arm and had that one nightmare.

I broke down into pieces during the airport heart attack in Lilly's arc. Damn that was so intense, first time ever I couldn't comprehend where current events might be leading to, I knew I was nice to Lilly so I should be getting the good ending but that part with the heart attack completely shook me and had immersed like nothing ever did before.

There were some parts in Hanako's route as well but we don't talk about that. Personal rule: You never EVER talk about Hanako's route ;-;
Because being heartwarming is in no way emotional...:P And Lilly's route isn't about being nice. :lol: Hell, you only have a few real opportunities to be mean to anyone in the game.

Real men talk about Hanako's route. :P

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:06 am
by SpunkySix
icannotfindausername wrote:
SpunkySix wrote:The very end of Emi's route. I teared up a few times before then, but the finality of knowing that it was over killed me at the end.
Really? why so?
Like the part with her dad?
We all saw that coming five miles away ahead.
No, more the part where she tells Generic Brown that she wants him to stay with her. The other two H scenes were nice and either cute or funny, but the last one was just full of fuzzy warms and seeing the aftermath end up being such a deep love was almost too much for me. And then I realized that there was no extension and that it was truly the end of the story despite the implied "happily ever after" and I totally leaked tears of distilled feels all over the place like a little bitch.

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:24 pm
by Potato
Who's Generic Brown? :P

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:38 am
by SpunkySix
Potato wrote:Who's Generic Brown? :P
Hisao. My general formula for naming characters is adjective + color of hair = name.

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:57 am
by Oddball
SpunkySix wrote:
Potato wrote:Who's Generic Brown? :P
Hisao. My general formula for naming characters is adjective + color of hair = name.
You don't need to name the characters. They already have names. In this case, the lead characters name is Hisao. You've played the game. You should have noticed that by now.

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:09 am
by Guest Poster
Not to mention you do call Emi 'Emi' instead of something like 'legless light brown'.

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:51 am
by pandaphil
It does raise the question though. Would KS have felt any different if at the beginning you were prmpted to enter your own name for the male lead?

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:09 am
by forgetmenot
pandaphil wrote:It does raise the question though. Would KS have felt any different if at the beginning you were prmpted to enter your own name for the male lead?
Y'know, there are girls who play KS as well. Heterosexual girls.

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:16 am
by SpunkySix
Oddball wrote:
SpunkySix wrote:
Potato wrote:Who's Generic Brown? :P
Hisao. My general formula for naming characters is adjective + color of hair = name.
You don't need to name the characters. They already have names. In this case, the lead characters name is Hisao. You've played the game. You should have noticed that by now.
Well yeah, of course. I guess I just sort of nickname characters that way when I'm being weird and me. I don't always do it, but when I do, that's how I do it. Besides, Emi would obviously be Fast Light Brown, obviously. This isn't obvious to anybody else? Huh. Who'da thunk it...

Bringing up the legitimately interesting question though, I've given thought as to whether being able to enter your own name would change the experience any, and I'm going to give it a big "slightly". Seeing my own name might have made a minor extra impact in especially feelsy scenes, but after a while I just got used to seeing Hisao's name and it became normal for me.

And then there's those people who'd have named him Butt Face or something...

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:16 am
by pandaphil
forgetmenot wrote:
pandaphil wrote:It does raise the question though. Would KS have felt any different if at the beginning you were prmpted to enter your own name for the male lead?
Y'know, there are girls who play KS as well. Heterosexual girls.

And that has what to do with what I said?

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:28 am
by Umber
pandaphil wrote:
forgetmenot wrote:
pandaphil wrote:It does raise the question though. Would KS have felt any different if at the beginning you were prmpted to enter your own name for the male lead?
Y'know, there are girls who play KS as well. Heterosexual girls.
And that has what to do with what I said?
I think he's just trying to get your comment to apply from all directions. You know, straight females having just as much option as straight males. Hisao vs. Hisako. (Shameless plug for Banda, by the way.)

IMO, self-insertion kind of takes a bit out of a story -- only in video games does that seem to work out, and that's because the minimalist depictions of 'the character' make you feel a part of the game, not that you are simply 'in' it. Albeit the fact that you created said character. It's still 'the character', or 'the chosen one', or some other vague, plot-indifferent label that's applied to a person who carries out the decisions you make for them.

That said, Hisao is a person as well, and I'm not sure if I'd be exactly comfortable with taking his place. Though, technically, it wouldn't have been his to begin with.

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:31 am
by bhtooefr
The problem with doing it in a visual novel is, unless the story is a constant stream of choice points for literally every single movement (at which point it's not a VN, it's an RPG), self-insert doesn't work. Even if Hisao is intended to be a character that can easily be inserted as, there's still points where he does things I wouldn't do, doesn't do things I would do, or does things differently from how I'd do them.

(Case in point, when asking Hanako to hang out in the city, if it were actually me, I'd pick the bad end option, but be a stuttering mess and pull an "I'VEGOTTOGODOSOMETHING", because my anxiety in situations like that would manifest itself. Then again, she'd pick up on that, so the bad ending might not happen. And, I'd be too nervous to actually go to her room uninvited, even if I thought Lilly was wrong.)

Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:00 pm
by icannotfindausername
SpunkySix wrote:Real men talk about Hanako's route. :P
Here's a little chart to help clear things out about "real men"

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Re: What scene made you "cry" the most

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:09 pm
by Potato
icannotfindausername wrote:
SpunkySix wrote:Real men talk about Hanako's route. :P
Here's a little chart to help clear things out about "real men"
Please continue to take my comments entirely too seriously.

As to the discussion going on, I don't think naming Hisao would change too much. It's a VN, not an RPG, so most of what happens is still largely out of the player's control. It's not like Skyrim where if I'm sick of Rin's convoluted nonsense, I can bail to go raid Nurse's office and sell all his meds to Othello. :lol: