His point was she "throws away her future" in her good end. My point was that the alleged future in question would by all accounts have completely sucked and was better off thrown away. Which point was missed?ProfAllister wrote:I'd say you're both missing the pointXanatos wrote:Oh, you mean that future where she deliberately destroys herself, is obviously not going to be happy and suffer for it, and more than likely eventually commits suicide? Yeah. She throws that away, as any sensible human being would. The last thing Rin should be is an artist because art for her isn't a hobby so much as a coping device that only accentuates her issues. Anyone who played her route completely should realize this.
Hisao never destroys Rin in the good end. He changes Rin but that does not destroy her. She is still Rin. In the bad end, he is guilty only by proxy. She presumably destroys herself but he lets it happen. In the neutral end, her destruction is left ambiguous as to whether or not it even happens. The bad ending suggests she would inevitably succeed and possibly in a more physical sense. The neutral ending leaves it less certain but it's clear if she doesn't destroy herself, she will still almost certainly stagnate, which does not necessarily entail destruction but prevents evolution. The change Hisao brings in the good ending prevents her destruction. She is not forced to give up any 'self' nor does she do so. Her self changes naturally due to the events in the arc and she embraces the change. That is not destruction. That is evolution.
All of the bad endings are either destruction or stagnation. The good endings are about evolution.
Act 1
Bad: Hisao is destroyed in an all too literal sense. The festival is probably ruined too.
Rin
Bad: She locks herself away in that room, set to continue on a destructive path.
Neutral: She takes a scholarship for art which sounds good enough but it's clear she will not be happy. She will stagnate, never quite being destroyed but never moving past her need for understanding.
Good: She evolves beyond the need for understanding. If it comes, it comes. If not, she can still be happy.
Emi
Bad: She drives Hisao away and continues her life always at arm's length. Stagnation.
Good: She evolves past this and opens up fully to Hisao.
Hanako
Bad: Her outburst reveals resentment and even hatred, driving Hisao away and presumably Lilly as well. As much as fans like to speculate, the end makes it pretty clear this isn't a "maybe she recovers" ordeal. That door is closed, both literally and figuratively. Destruction.
Neutral: She goes on as usual, remaining distant to both Lilly and Hisao. Stagnation.
Good: She opens up to Hisao and presumably moreso to Lilly and others in the future. Evolution.
Shizune
Bad: Her temperament and combative nature destroy her relationships with Misha and, by extension, Hisao.
Good: She grows beyond her constant combative, overbearing nature. What effect this has is largely speculative (apparently intended by the writer) but she does change for the better.
Lilly
...Honestly, I don't even know. The conflict in her route is mostly Hisao.
