Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILERS)

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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by yummines » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:46 pm

Total Destruction wrote:It's a bummer that I kind of agree with a great deal of this, even if it is just flame bait. Hell, it could be argued that aside from Hisao, the only truly dynamic characters in the VN are (legit spoilers) Misha, Rin, and Hanako (but definitely in Lilly's route and not her own, give or take a Bad End).
This is partly why Rin's route is my favorite route.

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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by Total Destruction » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:51 pm

yummines wrote:
Total Destruction wrote:It's a bummer that I kind of agree with a great deal of this, even if it is just flame bait. Hell, it could be argued that aside from Hisao, the only truly dynamic characters in the VN are (legit spoilers) Misha, Rin, and Hanako (but definitely in Lilly's route and not her own, give or take a Bad End).
This is partly why Rin's route is my favorite route.
The more I think about it, even as frustrating as it can be, I think I'm starting to agree. Does this make Rin my defacto favorite? :?
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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by Megumeru » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:02 pm

Mostly if you look at Hisao's perspective then yes, I do have to agree with SOME of OPs post.

Admit it, the only character that changed in the end is Hisao.

And yes, sometimes decisions are driven by the amount of 'FEELS' you have in each arc so 'defacto-ing' things is common, so don't have to be ashamed about it.

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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by Total Destruction » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:15 pm

Megumeru wrote:Mostly if you look at Hisao's perspective then yes, I do have to agree with SOME of OPs post.

Admit it, the only character that changed in the end is Hisao.

And yes, sometimes decisions are driven by the amount of 'FEELS' you have in each arc so 'defacto-ing' things is common, so don't have to be ashamed about it.
If we're strictly going by feels, then Emi would be my favorite, which is impossible as I can't fucking stand her. Not all feels are good feels.
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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by Megumeru » Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:18 pm

Total Destruction wrote:
Megumeru wrote:Mostly if you look at Hisao's perspective then yes, I do have to agree with SOME of OPs post.

Admit it, the only character that changed in the end is Hisao.

And yes, sometimes decisions are driven by the amount of 'FEELS' you have in each arc so 'defacto-ing' things is common, so don't have to be ashamed about it.
If we're strictly going by feels, then Emi would be my favorite, which is impossible as I can't fucking stand her. Not all feels are good feels.
Hmm...true.

I stand corrected.

Then whatever it is, let our mentality judge it anyway it wants. The human mind is a mysterious thing after all, and what makes us drawn to these characters are probably mysteries as well. Yep, it sounds better too.
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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by inquisitivenegro » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:56 pm

Only because people dont change doesnt mean theres no character development
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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by Helbereth » Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:58 pm

inquisitivenegro wrote:Only because people dont change doesnt mean theres no character development
This.

Look at the over-arcing story of Gregory House. He's the same misanthropic jerk in the last episode that he was in the first. That doesn't mean he hasn't developed as a character.

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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by Oddball » Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:22 am

Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends
I disagree. Rin is nothing like Shizune in their ends.
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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by Karl_Ravech » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:31 am

Oddball wrote:
Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends
I disagree. Rin is nothing like Shizune in their ends.

nonsense, Rin drove Hisao and her lesbian best friend (Emi) away because of her difficult personality just like Shizune

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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by Megumeru » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:32 am

Oddball wrote:
Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends
I disagree. Rin is nothing like Shizune in their ends.
I think you're missing the point on what the OP meant, but meh wtv
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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by random » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:34 am

Megumeru wrote:
Oddball wrote:
Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends
I disagree. Rin is nothing like Shizune in their ends.
I think you're missing the point on what the OP meant, but meh wtv

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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by Megumeru » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:38 am

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They say they hate Shizune? What is this? BLASPHEMY!

SHII-HAEL!
Shizune>Rin>Emi>Hanako>Lilly
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Re: Lilly, Rin, & Shizune are the same in their ends (SPOILE

Post by WorldlyWiseman » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:16 pm

Nomiya changes from a cocky jerk to an extremely frustrated jerk. That counts for something, right?
Hanako's favorite joke is The Aristocrats, but she never tells it because Lilly finds it really offensive. Instead, she practices her delivery in front of a mirror when she's alone. It's the only time she never stammers.

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