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Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Snarfindorf » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:45 pm

This 4279 word article all found on my blog article: http://dansabstractgaming.blogspot.co.u ... heart.html

It's bashing John Walker, who made a first impressions article about KS where he clearly didn't give a fuck about the VN or any of the characters, yet still felt the need to bash it. A SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!

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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:08 pm

Snarfindorf wrote:This 4279 word article all found on my blog article: http://dansabstractgaming.blogspot.co.u ... heart.html

It's bashing John Walker, who made a first impressions article about KS where he clearly didn't give a fuck about the VN or any of the characters, yet still felt the need to bash it. A SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!
The first impression of this guy that I got is "hates to read". Seriously.

"I didn't get enough choices" "I'm not at the dating yet" "There aren't enough images"

He calls it a "game" or "dating sim" at a couple points too, and it's really not. Yet he gets so hooked into the concept that it should be that he hates it because it sucks as a game or a dating sim...? -_-

GUH THIS RETURN OF THE KINGS BOOK ISN'T AS FLASHY AS THE TWO TOWERS MOVIE WAS, AND IT'S GOT ALL THIS EXTRA FLUFF I DON'T CARE ABOUT, RETURN OF THE KINGS SUX

OOK OOK

That's about my whole opinion of the writer of the original article.

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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Dan_The_Writer » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:15 pm

Guest wrote:
Snarfindorf wrote:This 4279 word article all found on my blog article: http://dansabstractgaming.blogspot.co.u ... heart.html

It's bashing John Walker, who made a first impressions article about KS where he clearly didn't give a fuck about the VN or any of the characters, yet still felt the need to bash it. A SHAMEFUR DISPRAY!
The first impression of this guy that I got is "hates to read". Seriously.

"I didn't get enough choices" "I'm not at the dating yet" "There aren't enough images"

He calls it a "game" or "dating sim" at a couple points too, and it's really not. Yet he gets so hooked into the concept that it should be that he hates it because it sucks as a game or a dating sim...? -_-

GUH THIS RETURN OF THE KINGS BOOK ISN'T AS FLASHY AS THE TWO TOWERS MOVIE WAS, AND IT'S GOT ALL THIS EXTRA FLUFF I DON'T CARE ABOUT, RETURN OF THE KINGS SUX

OOK OOK

That's about my whole opinion of the writer of the original article.
Writer of the blog post here: I think I want to marry you. Will you take my hand in lawfully wedded you get why I wrote this article and you don't hate without reading it?

Quote from reddit about my article: You're kidding, right? John Walker wrote a review that was critical of a game you liked, and that means he's "bashing" it? Jesus Christ, he's a critic. He criticizes things. I like Katawa Shoujo, but that certainly doesn't mean that everyone else has to.

I think I lol'd

Shortly after, the hater redacted his negative rating ^_^

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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by ShadeHaven » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:23 pm

Incoming "The KS community is so easy to troll hurr hurr hurr..." message inbound. I can feel it.

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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Dan_The_Writer » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:26 pm

ShadeHaven wrote:Incoming "The KS community is so easy to troll hurr hurr hurr..." message inbound. I can feel it.
I don't get it, are you saying I'M a troll? :(

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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Snow_Storm » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:31 pm

^I have a rep of doing pulling that card. But since I'm being nice today...

Look folks, some people don't like KS. Deal with it and get over it. (Main reason why I'm not saying "lol u guys are so easy to troll" is because this isn't a troll. It's a critic's review on the game.)

Personally, I don't see how bashing the guy who gave this game a bad review is going to do any good. It only just display that KS fans get angry over anything and that you guys are not mature enough to handle criticism of your favorite form of media. And yes, it's a bad thing.

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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Dan_The_Writer » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:33 pm

Snow_Storm wrote:^I have a rep of doing pulling that card. But since I'm being nice today...

Look folks, some people don't like KS. Deal with it and get over it. (Main reason why I'm not saying "lol u guys are so easy to troll" is because this isn't a troll. It's a critic's review on the game.)
Sigh, another one of you. From reddit:
Badluck1313 0 points 9 minutes ago
I thought his impressions were pretty well voiced. I mean, he thought that it wasn't engaging, the story was uninteresting, and the the illusion of choice in it outweighed the actual choice. All of which are fair criticisms, and all of which are reasons that many people did not enjoy Katawa Shoujo.
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He has fair criticisms, but the way he voices them is just utterly garbage. A single sentence on a huge problem with KS and then he goes into "this could be seen as disability porn"? I'm VERY prone to opinions, my whole blog is based on them, but when you write for RPS, this kind of quality is complete and utter tripe. Quote from me:
"Now, to John's credit, I skipped two paragraphs to find those two quotes, that weren't all that bad. They were his opinion at least. If only all of his article could be like that."

Seems you're not mature enough to read my article before posting "TROLLTORLTLWPERKEOWROTRO>TLROLLTROLL". Please read it, he voices his opinions terribly in an effort to fill up his bank account with delicious RPS moneys. Don't talk smack about the KS community which you are a part of and then not do your damned research. If anything, you look like the troll.
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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:35 pm

Quote from reddit about my article: You're kidding, right? John Walker wrote a review that was critical of a game you liked, and that means he's "bashing" it? Jesus Christ, he's a critic. He criticizes things. I like Katawa Shoujo, but that certainly doesn't mean that everyone else has to.
He's a shitty critic. It's got as much worth as someone saying "Twilight sucks because Meyer's vampires sparkle", except those people don't write an entire review based on that single point. Also, it's the internet, so I'm less than surprised that people continue to crawl under the bar.

Not to say that there aren't flaws with the series, but reading this article was like reading one for Twilight going on for multiple paragraphs about how it sucks because it's printed text and because Edward's skin glitters at one point. It's stupid monkey logic.

The guy goes on for paragraph after paragraph of the tedium of clicking through to read with few meaningful choices along the way, which makes me wonder if he ever played a Legend of Zelda or even (god forbid) Final Fantasy game in his childhood, because hoo-wee. And to see at one point "why should I care if Hisao joins the Student Council or not"... I don't know, because it's the story? Why should you ever care about what the main character does? Why did we care if Link got into the child vigilante squad in Majora's Mask? Oh, right, because the moon will crash into the planet and nuke it if he doesn't. Well, shit. I guess 4LS needed to put an exploding apocalyptic moon in the game. I vote Kenji to play the Skull Kid.

Honestly, no. It's just so much looking like a whiny six-year old complaining because it's too slow and doesn't involve a part where he can kill things.

He never criticizes the story itself, which is... almost all there is to criticize, really, as it's a visual novel, not a comic book or video game. (Which is what he compares them to.) Aside from his questions on "why should I care about this event or that"?

Seriously, aside from four paragraphs in his whole post, he just whines about the tedium of clicking, in such a thinly-veiled manner it's obvious he's just mad it isn't a TV show or movie he can zone out and watch. And it leaves you wondering how much he actually read.

You can sum up his article on the game like this, if you cut out the "baww I has to click" paragraphs:

"I hate that it's closer to a novel than to a video game, movie, or comic book. I can't care about the characters (probably because, as I claim, I'm clicking endlessly while zoned out), and the sex scenes aren't enjoyable. My playthrough ended up with the youngest-looking of the girls so I feel slightly perverted."

That's not even close enough to be a review... there's more fluff in his couple dozen paragraphs than in anything in KS, including Kenji's rants.

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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Dan_The_Writer » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:38 pm

He's a shitty critic. It's got as much worth as someone saying "Twilight sucks because Meyer's vampires sparkle", except those people don't write an entire review based on that single point. Also, it's the internet, so I'm less than surprised that people continue to crawl under the bar.
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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by BionicKraken » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:39 pm

The easiest way to deal with these kinds of people online is to . . . well, you know. Ignore it.
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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:40 pm

Look folks, some people don't like KS. Deal with it and get over it. (Main reason why I'm not saying "lol u guys are so easy to troll" is because this isn't a troll. It's a critic's review on the game.)
It's not a review on KS. It's a review on "OH GOD I HATE CLICKING" split into multiple paragraphs, where the author blatantly admits to not paying attention to the story as it progresses at multiple points.

"I couldn't get into the story."

Okay, expand on that, and why, not on how you "clicked a lot." God, if I'd ever tried to turn something like this in for an English class, how I hated a book because it was too long and admitted in the review that I skimmed through the whole damn thing, I'd fail the assignment.
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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Snow_Storm » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:41 pm

How much you willing to wager if this game would to brown nose KS and call it "OMG THE BEST GAME EVER! OMG IT'S SO AWESOME!", you guys wouldn't be attacking this man?

Again, I love KS, I really do enjoy this games. Yes, there are flaws, but I can overlook 'em because they flawss doesn't completely and utterly ruin the game. But I am not gonna get all up in arms every time i see a bad review for KS. It's mostly gonna get a "meh" from me.
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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Guest » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:44 pm

How much you willing to wager if this game would to brown nose KS and call it "OMG THE BEST GAME EVER! OMG IT'S SO AWESOME!", you guys wouldn't be attacking this man?
If he made two dozen paragraphs about how KS is awesome because he has to click a lot, but he skipped through the story because he was just enjoying the sensation of clicking, I would still call it a dumb-assed review.

Because it would be.

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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by ShadeHaven » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:48 pm

Dan_The_Writer wrote:
ShadeHaven wrote:Incoming "The KS community is so easy to troll hurr hurr hurr..." message inbound. I can feel it.
I don't get it, are you saying I'M a troll? :(
Haha no, its just that the passion that some of us have about KS attracts trolls every once in a while. This type of thread would be one to bring out those trolls.

And that John guy is an idiot. Its almost like someone was forcing him to write that half-assed review, or else he wouldn't get his paycheck.
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Re: Bashing a KS basher.

Post by Oddball » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:48 pm

Well, shit. I guess 4LS needed to put an exploding apocalyptic moon in the game.
I heard that was in the original draft of Shizune's route, but they decide to replace it with more scenes of them doing paperwork instead.
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