Heartless Wanderer wrote:Failing to see any relevance to the subject of rape. Clearly, the presence of clothing hasn't done a single fucking thing to mitigate that particular issue.
I actually wanted to make a point with that subject in mind, but I forgot about it when typing the rest of the post. I honestly don't remember anymore what I wanted to say with it so just disregard that part please.
Heartless Wanderer wrote:You're not quite understanding me--more specifically you're taking my view on it and stretching it to an unneeded extreme. I'm not saying we should all walk around with our junk hanging out; I'm saying we should at least get to a point where we don't either shy away on reflex or giggle like hyperactive schoolgirls when stuff like this comes up. Metaphorically speaking.
I don't think that's a whole lot to ask.
Well, why DO people giggle like schoolgirls when talking about sex? You could blame it partly on that which you are trying to point out in your post: a prudish upbringing with parents shunning every little thing related to sex which just makes it all the more appealing (what you can't have is what you want to have). However, I think there is a physical component in play regardless of the reputation sex has within your upbringing. Sex means intimacy, warmth and trust (in most cases). If you consider that laughter can be a natural reaction to a situation that is potentially uncomfortable, these people might be lacking those things that sex provides. It can't be a continuation of their days as a child because sex is all around us, whether you want it to be or not. So adults get used to it to a certain extent which partly removes the implanted prudishness.
So, children laugh because they are taught sex is something to be avoided. Adults laugh because they potentially find it awkward. And this can be because of many things: lacking the benefits of sex, not wanting to bring the attention on themselves with this subject or just being childish after all.
Xanatos wrote:I can turn on my TV right now and grab Hostel or Texas Chainsaw Massacre uncensored off the on-demand menu. Blood and gore everywhere, really sick and violent shit, torture and everything. And people seem to have no problem with that. Hell, I can even buy potentially-deadly drugs legal from a store. Again, not a problem to people. Yet when anyone catches so much as a glimpse of basic human anatomy, they start raving about how it needs to be censored and removed. "Waaa, there's a naked person! I should complain and demand censorship because I'm apparently deathly afraid of the human body!"
What are you talking about? Are those violent movies not rated appropriately? Do those potentially-deadly drugs not have an age restriction? It is the same for nudity in media. It has been rated and been given an advice for whom this is safe to see. I can understand your point that because all humans will be nude in their lives and not all humans will commit such violence or consume those drugs, nudity should be normal in media.
But nudity is more complex than that. It displays the human being in their purest physical form which is a huge factory of emotional reactions to another human being. There is lust, intimacy, aspiration, jealousy, idealization and so on. It isn't so simple as a baby's nude body. And because nudity is something that has a higher chance to appear in your life than murder or illegal drugs, the showing of actual nudity can be shocking BECAUSE it actually is in reach.
Also, people don't necessarily share the opinion of how shocking violence and drugs is as you describe it to be. This is partly because of the society you live in and partly because of the group of people you interact with. If you show someone who never plays videogames murder in a videogame, they will most likely find it more shocking than people who play videogames all the time. It is a matter of accustomization and the Western society finds violence and such normal because the amount of portrayel of that in the media is so high.