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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:38 pm
by brythain
bhtooefr wrote:Besides, even the Abrahamic marriages had plenty of concubines, which is very much not a form of monogamy.
Solomon was said (in 1 Kings 11) to have 700 wives and 300 concubines. Even allowing room for poetic exaggeration, that's quite a lot. And he was the one who asked to be made the wisest man in the world!

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:24 pm
by Mahorfeus
It's good to be king?

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:27 pm
by brythain
Mahorfeus wrote:It's good to be king?
He had a broken heart too... too much of a good thing?

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:29 am
by Manako
metalangel wrote: No, you can be attractive and still have problems. What you do need to do is not expect people to come to you. Get out there and live the best life you can, be someone who is a good person to be with. All the effort I've put into fitness and weight loss over the last year? It makes me feel amazing, and in turn it makes me more attractive and confident as a potential partner.
Again an excellent point, but what I wanted to mean with "are everyone OK if they aren't out ot shape slob ?" was more "Are everyone physically attractive if they aren't out of shape slob" ? This is certainly the case for many people. (99% of so-called "unattractive" ones just have a problem of confidence and don't know how enhance themselves, if it's comprehensive since it's far to be simple) but it could more difficult to be confident with a more rooted physical unattractiveness. (And confidence could be less usefull in this kind of cases, looks always matters after all)

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:25 am
by LilyKitsune
brythain wrote:
bhtooefr wrote:Besides, even the Abrahamic marriages had plenty of concubines, which is very much not a form of monogamy.
Solomon was said (in 1 Kings 11) to have 700 wives and 300 concubines. Even allowing room for poetic exaggeration, that's quite a lot. And he was the one who asked to be made the wisest man in the world!
Kim Jong Il was said to have invented the cheeseburger and got 11 hole in ones his first golf outing.

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:55 pm
by Steinherz
LilyKitsune wrote:
brythain wrote:
bhtooefr wrote:Besides, even the Abrahamic marriages had plenty of concubines, which is very much not a form of monogamy.
Solomon was said (in 1 Kings 11) to have 700 wives and 300 concubines. Even allowing room for poetic exaggeration, that's quite a lot. And he was the one who asked to be made the wisest man in the world!
Kim Jong Il was said to have invented the cheeseburger and got 11 hole in ones his first golf outing.
Yeah. But the Bible is never wrong or lies* though.

*Christian Logic

Also I think this is going a wheee bit of topic don't you think?

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:57 am
by FelOnyx
YutoTheOrc wrote: Not to mention illegal in most if not all first and second world countries.
All else aside, I feel compelled to note that 2nd world countries no longer exist. That term originated in the Cold War, with 1st world countries being American allies, 2nd world Soviet allies, and 3rd world neutral. Despite current use, 3rd world technically includes such backwards hellholes as Switzerland. 1st and 3rd world hang on today being used not quite accurately as synonyms to "developed' and "undeveloped/developing" countries, but 2nd world died in '91.

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:26 am
by bhtooefr
And then you have post-developed or de-developing nations, which are functionally equivalent to developing nations, except going the other direction towards least-developed nations.

However, because the US is leading the way towards that, if you follow the Western theory of three worlds, it's still (by definition) a first-world nation. It's just that parts of the third-world are better off than parts of the first-world.

In any case, would China not count as a remnant of the Second World? Or a few other scattered Communist(ish) states? (It depends on how you count it - it seems where the whole first world vs. second world terminology grew, it was Communism, not being allied with the Soviet Union, that determined membership in the second world, but some definitions are dependent on being allied with the Soviet Union.)

And, speaking of China, there's always the Chinese three worlds theory, which consists of superpowers, lesser powers, and exploited nations... which doesn't exactly match up with current usage of the "first world" versus "third world" terms (as most of the "first world" is actually second world in that system), but it's closer. (And, even under that system, the US is first-world (and in fact is the only first-world nation), even as it's de-developing.)

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:37 am
by azumeow
bhtooefr wrote:Words, words words
Alright, I'm just gonna ask: In what way is the US de-developing? Is it our economy, because yeah that's gotten a bit worse. I mean, I just...don't really know. Like, yeah, it's certainly not the best place in the world, but it's far from terrible.

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:44 am
by bhtooefr
Growing income inequality, declining educational standards, increasing homelessness.

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:57 am
by azumeow
bhtooefr wrote:Growing income inequality, declining educational standards, increasing homelessness.
Yeah, makes sense. Especially education-wise. I'm really glad Obama passed that bill that forgives federal student debts after 15 years. It's....not so much, but it's a start, definitely.

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:37 am
by Munchenhausen
azumeow wrote:
bhtooefr wrote:Growing income inequality, declining educational standards, increasing homelessness.
Yeah, makes sense. Especially education-wise. I'm really glad Obama passed that bill that forgives federal student debts after 15 years. It's....not so much, but it's a start, definitely.
Pfft we have to wait 30 years over here :lol: This is the reason why I didn't go to Uni.

Well, aside from my horrifying exam results

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:41 am
by Mahorfeus
I have never seen the word "de-development" used to describe the United States before. :lol:

All things considered, it sounds more than a tad overdramatic.

This being off-topic of course, unless the economy leaves you in despair.

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:31 pm
by Eurobeatjester
There's a lot of social issues involved as well.

Up until the early 1990s, we had the Cold war with Russia and as a result, nearly every innovation we made was because we were in a pissing match against the commies.

When the Soviet Union collapsed leaving the US the world's only superpower, in a lot of those areas we've gotten extremely lazy over the last 25 years. The US has been falling like a stone in almost every single measurable aspect the last decade in things like per capita income, infant mortality rate, literacy, life expectancy, etc.

If you try to point this out, especially as someone considered "younger," you get absolutely crucified and defamed by the older generation who stick their fingers in their ears and still cling to the notion that the US is the greatest country on earth and nothing can change that.

Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 5:03 am
by CoffeeDrive
Eurobeatjester wrote: If you try to point this out, especially as someone considered "younger," you get absolutely crucified and defamed by the older generation who stick their fingers in their ears and still cling to the notion that the US is the greatest country on earth and nothing can change that.
"But, china owns about 1/3 of your economy"
"Im not listening to you, 'merica, bald eagle, would you like freedom with those fries?"