Hanako's Broken Heart Club

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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by YZQ » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:14 am

The human brain is a fasinating thing.
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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by krere » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:01 pm

YZQ wrote:The human brain is a fasinating thing.
Speaking of the human brain, I just finished Rin's route...

Hoo boy.

I'm unsure if all the routes are similar to each other, but for this particular one, I was hopelessly lost throughout her story. It's such a strange feeling of genuine curiosity and frustrating complexity. I think I can understand the message meant to be taken out of her route but it's like (if I remember correctly) what Hisao said: it's like talking to a brick wall who retorts with sarcastic remarks. It may have been the narrative that added to the difficulty of trying to understand her... but still.

Even now after finishing her route am I at a loss for thoughts. I suppose that... I don't dislike Rin, but I couldn't imagine pursuing something more than friendship. She reminds me of one of my dad's "friends." Most of the time we can't necessarily stand her but she still comes back to us. And occasionally she'll actually have something intelligible to say, a rare occurrence for her personality type. I guess she and Rin are one and the same.

I like a deep and philosophical person as much as the next guy, Rin though... then again, I guess that's what her path is all about.

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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by Firewind » Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:13 am

krere wrote:
YZQ wrote:The human brain is a fasinating thing.
Speaking of the human brain, I just finished Rin's route...

Hoo boy.

I'm unsure if all the routes are similar to each other, but for this particular one, I was hopelessly lost throughout her story. It's such a strange feeling of genuine curiosity and frustrating complexity. I think I can understand the message meant to be taken out of her route but it's like (if I remember correctly) what Hisao said: it's like talking to a brick wall who retorts with sarcastic remarks. It may have been the narrative that added to the difficulty of trying to understand her... but still.

Even now after finishing her route am I at a loss for thoughts. I suppose that... I don't dislike Rin, but I couldn't imagine pursuing something more than friendship. She reminds me of one of my dad's "friends." Most of the time we can't necessarily stand her but she still comes back to us. And occasionally she'll actually have something intelligible to say, a rare occurrence for her personality type. I guess she and Rin are one and the same.

I like a deep and philosophical person as much as the next guy, Rin though... then again, I guess that's what her path is all about.
Well, how'd you expect to understand someone who doesn't really understand him/herself quite well? (at least that's how I see things during her path, don't hit me)
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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by krere » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:44 am

Yeah, not being able to understand her is to be expected it seems. She certainly is an enigmatic one. To be honest, I guess I could even say that she and I are alike in a strange way. We both share that sensation of aloofness. Even without a lot of friends to call my own, I thought I had a pretty clear understanding of other people. I would at least think so after years of quiet observation.

Is it possible to ever truly understand someone? To truly understand one's own being?

Perhaps it's a question without an answer.


...I think Rin is starting to rub off on me. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.

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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by hitman555z » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:48 am

krere wrote:Is it possible to ever truly understand someone? To truly understand one's own being?

Perhaps it's a question without an answer.


...I think Rin is starting to rub off on me. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
if you study someone enough and go through many years of therapy and do many examinations on them, it is possible to know someone inside and out. including thought processes and such.

and it is always a good thing if rin is rubbing o-

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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by Xanatos » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:39 pm

hitman555z wrote:
krere wrote:Is it possible to ever truly understand someone? To truly understand one's own being?

Perhaps it's a question without an answer.


...I think Rin is starting to rub off on me. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
if you study someone enough and go through many years of therapy and do many examinations on them, it is possible to know someone inside and out. including thought processes and such.
So, basically, you can completely know a person if you do this thing that literally nobody has ever done and thus might not even work?

Well, hell. KS2: Hisao and Rin Go To Therapy
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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by Auratus » Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:31 pm

krere wrote:
Is it possible to ever truly understand someone? To truly understand one's own being?

Perhaps it's a question without an answer.


...I think Rin is starting to rub off on me. I don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
Many philosopher of the antiqued time which probably have way more free time than us thought about it. So read about them could help you understand it.

My thought is, You don't have to know how can a bird fly to envy in their freedom. You don't have to know how gravity works to fear of falling down. You don't have to know how a human works to admire his/her capability.

In Computer programming class, My professor teach about "abstraction" and "modularization". In short, What one saw as one thing can being divided, and the divided part can be also divided, ad infinitum. So as long as you don't feel like you had infinity time. I suppose we don't have to completely understand a human being or anything in every details. I can appreciate this forum and game even through I don't even know most of them in real life. If anyone want to do it, Good luck. I would do something else.

BTW, I just borrowed "The Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith from library, and daunted by English that probably as old as U.S.A. Maybe I couldn't finish this book in next week.
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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by Hanako Nakai » Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:48 am

Apparently, i would be in this.. Probably because of what happened to my past, My story is kinda like Hisao's but i don't have arrythmia that got built up due to a girl..

I did lose everything i have when my disease got discovered, I do have a respiratory disease that builds up when i get stressed, in which i fold down when it does build up... I am thankful i found a new set of friends with my disease in the way... I never knew i had a weak respiratory system till i got hospitalized for 6 months due to it last year... I'm also thankful to 4LS for making KS and making me feel that "There's still hope for people like me".. :)
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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by Shail » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:26 am

Hrm, I read broken heart club but I don't see any broken hearts. Guess I can share mine ^_~..

Yeah, I have a large circle of acquaintances, but nobody I would venture forth to call an actual friend. They may call me a friend, but my definition of the word sets the requirements fairly high xD. I have a piss-poor history of relating with people too <_<... For example, when I was about 14, I got into anime(REALLY got into it, obsessing like hell), and I become really drawn to the idea of a cute high school gf with whom I could cuddle, talk to, and wouldn't just want to bang and go spend my money. The thought of having a true "Nakama" sounded great too. Here's my results after graduating..

Only two people were close enough to me that I tried to become "True friends" with them, we jokingly called eachother Nakama(buncha OP nerds, sue me), I moved 2000 miles away from SC and never got to see friend #1 again, still keep in touch on FB but it's just not the same. Friend #2, tried to fucking kill me a few weeks before graduation because I didn't have 20$ to lend him for his "stuff" Nakama Project = Failure

I had a total of 3 "girlfriends" if you'd venture to call them that, more like potential gfs that never quite made it through.
GF #1: We were getting along very well, I even told her I loved her, she hesitated and said the same(That hesitation hurt..) but before we could kiss, she got a phone call and the moment was lost, the next day she died in a car accident(Me at 14)

GF #2: We never got beyond holding hands and telling people we were dating, never did anything beyond that, and already she was cheating on me because I "wasn't there enough", well it's hard to be there when she's out all the time with someone else. (Me at 15)

GF #3: We held hands, talked, I told her I loved her, never got a reply, got so far as to finger her(In an extremely awkward situation I might add...) but never kissed and she never replied to my confession, or mentioned it again(should have noticed this was shit as soon as she didn't reply, but I was so struck with the idea that maybe, just maybe, I could finally get somewhere, and I decided it was just too soon and hoped she'd warm up later), the day after I told her I loved her, she suddenly stops texting me, calling me, and hanging out with me. I find out a week later she's dating some 31 year old guy(she's 19..) and she says it "just sorta happened"(Me at 18)

GF Project: Fuck you all

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So next time you ask someone to "get out more" and "stop being such a pussy", keep in mind, some people have reasons for being anti-social.
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Hanako -> Rin -> Shizune -> ? -> ?

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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by Sea » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:36 am

Shail wrote:[Words]
Damn, guy. You've had it rough.
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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by metalangel » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:47 am

I have a friend who lives about two hours away, so we mostly text or Facebook message.

This morning she sent me two Facebook messages, which caused my phone to buzz. I was reading them when she texts asking why I unfriended her. I hadn't, after all, I'd just received the messages via Facebook, and everything looked fine on the mobile apps. I went and got my laptop, logged in, and sure enough... she wasn't on my friends list.

She's mad at me now. I didn't unfriend her but she doesn't believe me. I asked her why I would remove her, and if I had, would I be insisting I didn't or even talking to her as opposed to just outright telling her or ignoring her? She called me a few names and that was that.

She has depression, gets upset when I haven't read her mind and so don't know something she thinks she's told me.

This is really upsetting. One minute I'm asleep, the next minute I don't know what's happening and apparently I've done something wrong, and the verdict has been reached. This is on top of being upset that I unfriended on Facebook. Facebook is a computer system, computer systems can go wrong and make mistakes and screw things up, because the 'friends box' is suddenly unticked doesn't affect your friendship in real life. :|

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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by Shail » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:06 am

Girls on facebook tend to cause drama alot, there's a chance she unfriended YOU, then forgot about it and yelled at you for it. Someone in my JROTC class back in 11th grade did that, dumbass zzz..

Overall my advice to people, is to remember that a single true friend far outweighs a hundred acquaintances, and often times the loneliest people, the anti-socials and the rejects, will make the best friends you could ever find. Because those who know what it's like to have few to none in their circle of friends are the ones who appreciate the full value of having a true friend. A cheesy as hell quote that I literally scoffed at a while back comes to mind "The loneliest people are the kindest, The saddest people smile the brightest. The most damaged people are the wisest. All because they do not wish to see anyone else suffer the way they do." It's true you know.. Not always of course, some damaged people are dumber than a brick, and there are some sad people who don't smile worth shit, and plenty of lonely people who are complete dicks(eventually being lonely/anti-social evolves into simply hating people, not healthy..) but it still rings true for the most part.
~I hate endings~ Fan fiction is the only way to keep KS alive!
~The only good ending is a sequel~
~Want to know why I REALLY fucking hate endings? Mirai Nikki Want to know why I love epilogues? Watch the Mirai Nikki OVA
~Mirai Nikki: A perfect example of endings I hate~
Hanako -> Rin -> Shizune -> ? -> ?

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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by metalangel » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:37 am

There'd be no drama here, all it would take is for me to click add friend and her to accept. Instead it's being wrongly seen as some kind of rejection. I am going to wait and see, I think that it's stress that's been building up over a very crappy last few days.

I'm not someone who has a lot of friends, I tend to have a small number of people that I am very close to, everyone else falls into 'acquaintances'. So when there's a problem with someone I actually do like and get along with and enjoy talking to, then I react with more concern because those people are important to me.

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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by Kutagh » Sun Aug 25, 2013 5:56 pm

Shail wrote:[..]
Overall my advice to people, is to remember that a single true friend far outweighs a hundred acquaintances, and often times the loneliest people, the anti-socials and the rejects, will make the best friends you could ever find. Because those who know what it's like to have few to none in their circle of friends are the ones who appreciate the full value of having a true friend. A cheesy as hell quote that I literally scoffed at a while back comes to mind "The loneliest people are the kindest, The saddest people smile the brightest. The most damaged people are the wisest. All because they do not wish to see anyone else suffer the way they do." It's true you know.. Not always of course, some damaged people are dumber than a brick, and there are some sad people who don't smile worth shit, and plenty of lonely people who are complete dicks(eventually being lonely/anti-social evolves into simply hating people, not healthy..) but it still rings true for the most part.
I agree there... A lesson I learned early enough was the difference between 'friends' and actual friends: Either they are still friends even if it isn't convenient at that moment... or they are friends only when it is convenient to them. I choose to not bother with the latter. And with my Deafness it is rather easy to figure out the latter group, as they quickly can't be arsed to engage me in conversations.

Ironically I'm often being told I'm a good listener despite my Deafness :P

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Re: Hanako's Broken Heart Club

Post by simmr001 » Sun Aug 25, 2013 6:57 pm

Shail wrote:Girls on facebook tend to cause drama alot, there's a chance she unfriended YOU, then forgot about it and yelled at you for it. Someone in my JROTC class back in 11th grade did that, dumbass zzz..

Overall my advice to people, is to remember that a single true friend far outweighs a hundred acquaintances, and often times the loneliest people, the anti-socials and the rejects, will make the best friends you could ever find. Because those who know what it's like to have few to none in their circle of friends are the ones who appreciate the full value of having a true friend. A cheesy as hell quote that I literally scoffed at a while back comes to mind "The loneliest people are the kindest, The saddest people smile the brightest. The most damaged people are the wisest. All because they do not wish to see anyone else suffer the way they do." It's true you know.. Not always of course, some damaged people are dumber than a brick, and there are some sad people who don't smile worth shit, and plenty of lonely people who are complete dicks(eventually being lonely/anti-social evolves into simply hating people, not healthy..) but it still rings true for the most part.
That quote is probably the one thing that has kept me from suicide. Family would suffer to much.

I know it's not going to help but I'm sorry for your poor love life. Kinda puts mine in perspective.

And most people who devolve into hate can come back. Going that far can instill a fanatical sense of personal loyalty too

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