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Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by bradpara » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:54 pm

Hello,

I downloaded KS the day it was released.

I have finished all five routes, gotten all five good endings and can honestly say that I loved them all. (Yes, even Shizune).

I am at 93% Completion.

And I know I will never get any further.

Why you ask?

But I cannot bring myself to play any of the Bad Endings.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by misterprinny » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:08 am

Yes, I have the exact same problem. I feel you bro :lol:

I was never much of a 100%, finish-everything gamer though, so it's all good.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by MoogleDee » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:45 am

The completionist in me is baffled to even suggest skipping the bad endings. The doki doki part says that you should see the bad endings to gain further insight to the characters. I say this especially for Shizune. Yes it's a VN so there's the escapism thing going for it, but they're more than disabled girls you get to have sex with. By not doing the bad endings that says to me you know what I'm talking about and perhaps you care about them too much to see them hurt. If you really care about them, I would recommend doing the bad endings.

Rereading what I typed, it feels pushy. I apologize for that, but I'm just tossing out my 2 cents.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by Eraser35 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:54 am

I know how you feel, I don't like being a dick but only for when the situation calls for it(in Fallout 3 in the Stealing Independence quest I had to get the Declaration of Indepenence from a museum only for it to be guarded by a robot that thinks its George Washington and it wasn't going to give it up but it said it would make me a copy if I went out to get some ink, so I said fuck doing a fetch quest in a fetch quest and shot his ass) or doing it for completionist sake(do the bad end first so the good end will cheer you up)

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Post by newnar » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:00 am

All I can say is: Without playing through the bad/neutral endings, you are only getting half of what the arc offers.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by encrypted12345 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:06 am

newnar wrote:All I can say is: Without playing through the bad/neutral endings, you are only getting half of what the arc offers.
I know that, but ... I did Shizune's bad ending and both of the not-good Rin endings... and I honestly can't force myself to do more!!

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Post by newnar » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:12 am

encrypted12345 wrote:
newnar wrote:All I can say is: Without playing through the bad/neutral endings, you are only getting half of what the arc offers.
I know that, but ... I did Shizune's bad ending and both of the not-good Rin endings... and I honestly can't force myself to do more!!

It hurts really bad, but I am a masochist. I want to hurt so that I can know that I'm real.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by Ippo279 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:48 am

newnar wrote:
encrypted12345 wrote:
newnar wrote:All I can say is: Without playing through the bad/neutral endings, you are only getting half of what the arc offers.
I know that, but ... I did Shizune's bad ending and both of the not-good Rin endings... and I honestly can't force myself to do more!!

It hurts really bad, but I am a masochist. I want to hurt so that I can know that I'm real.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by alien.marksman » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:07 am

Quite simply..
Yes, the Bad Ends will hurt.

But to avoid the Bad Ends and not get that remaining 7% to full completion. Is a Discredit to the team at 4LS.
Here's a group of people who worked over the last 5 years make a wonderful product. To not enjoy it in it's entirety, to lack the desire to intricately explore every facet of this wonderful gem that they've created? Inconceivable.

So, think of it like this. KS is just like the Bill Murry movie 'Groundhog Day'. Where you have to replay the same day over and over again till you get it right.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by New Age Retro Hippie » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:10 am

I'm a completionist who will never complete the game because bad feels.

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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by myshoesarebrown » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:54 am

I got Lilly's bad end about 3 times because I kept screwing shit up (how do you screw up this hard in a VN? Be me.) before getting the good ending. Each time felt bad. I think that makes up for it. I'm not going back for the other bad endings any time soon.

That, and, I've tried replaying. The game is too boring for me on a second playthrough. Lilly's multiple plays wasn't boring, but there was the metatension of "did I finally fix it?" It was like I was a time traveler trying to fix the past. Anyway, going through the game another time just isn't interesting for me, at least not until I forget most of it.

"But you can reload a save before the branch to the bad end" you may say. I don't like doing this. I don't enjoy the experience as much. It's difficult to explain why. If I do this, then the ending loses much of its impact, and I care more about the experience than a number telling me how much I've done. This is probably a unique thing to me. I dunno. So for now, I'll stick to my 95%.

I typed up a long document about my Lilly adventure, which I posted on Gamefaqs a long time ago. Would anyone be interested if I were to post it here somewhere? No? Oh well.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by Swoopie » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:14 am

You can always do the bad endings (you should really, it will make you understand the girls better) and then do the good endings once again. And if you want to prevent 'screwing up' you can always use the walkthroughs.

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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by toxicmaniac » Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:18 am

You should've done the bad endings first and then the good endings. That way it would hurt less as you will be more focussed in the good ending so you atleast forget a bit of the possibility of the bad ending.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by zanzarra » Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:09 pm

Playing the bad ends is a good way to distance yourself from the game again, after having palyed it a lot. At least for me, it felt.. finished, afterwards. I still fire it up now and then to play some scenes again, but in a way, it helped me move on and realize that, in fact, it's just a game.

Also, if you can't stand the bad ends because you don't want to leave the poor girls like that, there's always the option of playing through the corresponding good end from the library directly after.
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Re: Does else anyone here have my problem

Post by griffon8 » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:05 pm

alien.marksman wrote:But to avoid the Bad Ends and not get that remaining 7% to full completion. Is a Discredit to the team at 4LS.
Here's a group of people who worked over the last 5 years make a wonderful product. To not enjoy it in it's entirety, to lack the desire to intricately explore every facet of this wonderful gem that they've created? Inconceivable.
That. Is. Bull.

The devs don't get to choose how someone enjoys it. Their choice was whether or not to release it at all. After that, it's called Death Of The Author.

Of course, your choice of the word 'inconceivable' makes me think you might be jesting, because I don't think I've ever seen that word used seriously. :lol:
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