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Middle favorite girl

Shizune
24
15%
Lily
31
19%
Hanako
35
22%
Emi
36
22%
Rin
36
22%
 
Total votes: 162

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Re: middle girl

Post by geekahedron » Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:57 am

I could have guess that Shizune and Rin would have the fewest votes; both girls are very "polarizing" and people seem to love or hate them. Lilly makes sense for the most "middle" votes, too; few people hate her, but her route is [very arguably] somewhat cliche and less interesting than the other girls' stories.

For me, the first and last girls were much easier to pick than trying to arrange the middle three. Actually, it probably will vary depending on when I am asked about it...
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Re: middle girl

Post by scorptatious » Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:07 pm

It's sort of a toss up between Lilly and Shizune. I like both for different reasons. But I can't like one more than the other. :(

Meanwhile, Hanako is on top while Emi and Rin are at the bottom. (Although I still like both of them.)

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Re: middle girl

Post by Mirage_GSM » Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:09 pm

Now this is getting silly...
Emi > Misha > Hanako > Lilly > Rin > Shizune

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Re: middle girl

Post by crystal » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:17 am

Well in terms of the characters themselves for me it's Lilly > Hanako > Rin > Emi > Shizune. So if I understand this thread correctly mine is Rin.
Lilly path > Hanako path >>>> Shizune path > Emi path > Rin path.

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Re: middle girl

Post by geekahedron » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:59 am

crystal wrote:Well in terms of the characters themselves for me it's Lilly > Hanako > Rin > Emi > Shizune. So if I understand this thread correctly mine is Rin.
Funny that your signature says something different, just observing :p
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Re: middle girl

Post by Mysterious Stranger » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:55 pm

geekahedron wrote:
crystal wrote:Well in terms of the characters themselves for me it's Lilly > Hanako > Rin > Emi > Shizune. So if I understand this thread correctly mine is Rin.
Funny that your signature says something different, just observing :p
Actually his signature indicates what paths he liked the most/least, whereas his post tells us how he would rank the characters themselves. Technical difference.
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Re: middle girl

Post by geekahedron » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:30 pm

Fair point.
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Re: middle girl

Post by UncleJellyfish » Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:41 pm

Lilly. Was a toss up between her and Shizune, since they're both sorta tied for 3rd, so I flipped a coin. =/
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Re: middle girl

Post by DrSkulk » Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:57 pm

So then who would my middle girl be? My rankings are in the sig, but I don't know which one to follow...
Emi > Lilly >>> Rin > Hanako > Misha >>> Shizune - Personality
Lilly >>> Hanako > Emi > Rin >>> Shizune > Misha - Story
Rin > Misha >>> Hanako > Emi > Lilly >>> Shizune - Character

... Yeah, don't really like Shizune.

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Re: middle girl

Post by Mysterious Stranger » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:33 pm

DrSkulk wrote:So then who would my middle girl be? My rankings are in the sig, but I don't know which one to follow...
Judging from the context of the thread, we're not taking the routes themselves into account. So I guess yours would be Rin.
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Re: middle girl

Post by DrSkulk » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:57 pm

Thanks for the clarification. That's a bit dodgy though, cuz I like all of them on almost equal levels except for Shizune. :lol:

Now for a jab at the OP for his questionable figure. 120 possibilities? I'm pretty sure it's 32... (Not that anyone cares, or it matters haha :mrgreen:)

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5 C 0 = 1 (You don't like ANY of the girls)
5 C 1 = 5
5 C 2 = 10
5 C 3 = 10
5 C 4 = 5
5 C 5 = 1 (You like everyone equally)

Total = 32 different combinations

...Don't ask about the 4 middle girls possibility. I don't know how that exactly works either. *divides by 0*
Emi > Lilly >>> Rin > Hanako > Misha >>> Shizune - Personality
Lilly >>> Hanako > Emi > Rin >>> Shizune > Misha - Story
Rin > Misha >>> Hanako > Emi > Lilly >>> Shizune - Character

... Yeah, don't really like Shizune.

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Re: middle girl

Post by geekahedron » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:01 pm

DrSkulk wrote:Thanks for the clarification. That's a bit dodgy though, cuz I like all of them on almost equal levels except for Shizune. :lol:

Now for a jab at the OP for his questionable figure. 120 possibilities? I'm pretty sure it's 32... (Not that anyone cares, or it matters haha :mrgreen:)

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5 C 0 = 1 (You don't like ANY of the girls)
5 C 1 = 5
5 C 2 = 10
5 C 3 = 10
5 C 4 = 5
5 C 5 = 1 (You like everyone equally)

Total = 32 different combinations

...Don't ask about the 4 middle girls possibility. I don't know how that exactly works either. *divides by 0*
We're talking about ordering the girls, so you need to take permutations, not combinations.

The simple permutation of 5 girls is 5! = 5×4×3×2×1 = 120. If you count the cases where one or more girls may be equally ranked as distinct cases, there are even more possibilities (for which I don't really care to do the math), not fewer.
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Re: middle girl

Post by DrSkulk » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:18 pm

geekahedron wrote: We're talking about ordering the girls, so you need to take permutations, not combinations.

The simple permutation of 5 girls is 5! = 5×4×3×2×1 = 120. If you count the cases where one or more girls may be equally ranked as distinct cases, there are even more possibilities (for which I don't really care to do the math), not fewer.
Yes you are correct, there are 120 ways of ordering them. But you are mistaken in thinking that we are concerned with the ordering. We aren't concerned with permutations here at all. We are looking at choosing a number of girls that fit the description of being in the middle of the rankings. For example, you might have LHRES and HERSL. Both are distinct orderings (or permutations) yes, but with respects to who is in the middle, they are identical.
Emi > Lilly >>> Rin > Hanako > Misha >>> Shizune - Personality
Lilly >>> Hanako > Emi > Rin >>> Shizune > Misha - Story
Rin > Misha >>> Hanako > Emi > Lilly >>> Shizune - Character

... Yeah, don't really like Shizune.

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Re: middle girl

Post by geekahedron » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:34 pm

DrSkulk wrote:
geekahedron wrote: We're talking about ordering the girls, so you need to take permutations, not combinations.

The simple permutation of 5 girls is 5! = 5×4×3×2×1 = 120. If you count the cases where one or more girls may be equally ranked as distinct cases, there are even more possibilities (for which I don't really care to do the math), not fewer.
Yes you are correct, there are 120 ways of ordering them. But you are mistaken in thinking that we are concerned with the ordering. We aren't concerned with permutations here at all. We are looking at choosing a number of girls that fit the description of being in the middle of the rankings. For example, you might have LHRES and HERSL. Both are distinct orderings (or permutations) yes, but with respects to who is in the middle, they are identical.
Well, no, OP said he "would make a choice for each sequence, but 120 is too many combinations [sic]." Since that is unfeasible he is only asking for the middle girl, but the math behind the 120, in context, definitely does refer to all the different ways you can order all five girls.
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Re: middle girl

Post by DrSkulk » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:48 pm

geekahedron wrote: Well, no, OP said he "would make a choice for each sequence, but 120 is too many combinations [sic]." Since that is unfeasible he is only asking for the middle girl, but the math behind the 120, in context, definitely does refer to all the different ways you can order all five girls.
Ah well, I guess we are both correct in some respects then. You are keeping true to the OP's words while I'm thinking in the contexts of this particular post.

Anyways, now I'm bored, so I'm gonna do the calculation you were too bothered to do. :mrgreen:

Ordering 5 girls
= 5! = 120
Ordering 5 girls, 2 of them on equal level
= 4! = 24
Ordering 5 girls, 3 of them on equal level, or 2 pairs of equal levels
= 3! = 6
Ordering 5 girls, placed on 2 different levels
= 2! = 2
Ordering 5 girls, no particular favourites (Like them all equally)
= 1! = 1
Ordering 5 girls, no favourites (Don't like any of them)
= 0! = 1

Total = 154 ways
Emi > Lilly >>> Rin > Hanako > Misha >>> Shizune - Personality
Lilly >>> Hanako > Emi > Rin >>> Shizune > Misha - Story
Rin > Misha >>> Hanako > Emi > Lilly >>> Shizune - Character

... Yeah, don't really like Shizune.

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