(My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

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(My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by Hitman3256 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:20 pm

Hellooo.

I've been sick since Thursday night, still am really, and I was looking through online and I saw that KS had been recently released (I've only heard about it once, and that was when I saw an idea of KS by RAITA's drawing, didnt know there was a demo), my interest was peaked first hearing about it although not knowing what kind of game it will be, honestly first thing that popped into my head was those cheap dating sims you see everywhere -.-
I downloaded it Friday evening and began playing, instantly addicted.
I decided to go against walkthroughs until I needed it for 100% completion later on so I began playing casually.
Very first path I got put through was Emi, did it twice with speed to get both endings (fortunately my first try ended with the good end ^^), next ended up with Shizune (which will lead on to my question later) and predictably enough since there was only one choice in the whole course, I ended up with the bad ending, redid it for the good one. I recently finished Rin, with the good ending even, I was missing only one scene also so I redid it with walkthrough so I got everything.
3 girls in 3 days, Emi on Friday night up until 6 am.....Shizune from 12:00 to about 8:00 pm Saturday, and Rin right after that until 2 am, went to bed and completed her today from 11:00 am to about 4:30 I guess.
Point is, I'm grateful to have stumbled over KS to get me through my sick weekend ^^ I had even skipped school Friday for it.

Emi, so far, has been my favorite, I swear I literally had fallen in love with her from the way she treated Hisao and him caring for her and trying to help her; Shizune, I liked the girl, but her relationship with Hisao left something to be desired; Rin's was a mess I have to say, almost ended up giving me a headache....I almost felt like Hisao was forcing herself to like her, she's cool and all, but very out of it. I wouldn't have bothered with her.

Now...question:
In Shizune's story, how exactly does choosing to "comfort" (Hisao's definition of that word and my definition are slightly varied...) Misha end up leading to the bad ending? Since the whole thing was just a big run-on set of events with no options, I might not have noticed the difference or something. I never really understood how that changed Misha really.

At 66% completion, I still have Hanako and Lilly to do, probably in that order. Hanako seems interesting, but Lilly im not looking forward to, Shizune has rubbed off on me.

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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by newnar » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:27 pm

You just left Fat Man & Little Boy for the final 2.

Get rdy for HiroshimaXNagasaki-level hydro eruptions, 1945 style.

Anyways, yea, we all got da feels like u did.
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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by Althamus » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:33 pm

Hitman3256 wrote:Emi, so far, has been my favorite, I swear I literally had fallen in love with her from the way she treated Hisao and him caring for her and trying to help her; Shizune, I liked the girl, but her relationship with Hisao left something to be desired; Rin's was a mess I have to say, almost ended up giving me a headache....I almost felt like Hisao was forcing herself to like her, she's cool and all, but very out of it. I wouldn't have bothered with her.

Now...question:
In Shizune's story, how exactly does choosing to "comfort" (Hisao's definition of that word and my definition are slightly varied...) Misha end up leading to the bad ending? Since the whole thing was just a big run-on set of events with no options, I might not have noticed the difference or something. I never really understood how that changed Misha really.
Emi love ftw! :D

And re: Shizune Q, put it this way, Misha was sleeping with her best friend's boyfriend. No matter where you go, that kind of thing is frowned upon. After that point, Misha felt incredibly guilty that she'd betrayed Shizune, and it completely tarred her relationship with her, which ultimately caused it to fall apart and Shizune to lose her best friend. It also coloured Shizune's relationship with Hisao to an extent as well, which led to Shizune deciding that she wasn't fit to have friends close to her, and to alienate herself from people to work out what her next step was. If you choose the good ending, there is no massive underlying guilt between the main characters, which means that they manage to patch up their comparatively minor grievances and become friends again. Leastways, that's how I remember it.
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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by Hitman3256 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:46 pm

Althamus wrote: Emi love ftw! :D

And re: Shizune Q, put it this way, Misha was sleeping with her best friend's boyfriend. No matter where you go, that kind of thing is frowned upon. After that point, Misha felt incredibly guilty that she'd betrayed Shizune, and it completely tarred her relationship with her, which ultimately caused it to fall apart and Shizune to lose her best friend. It also coloured Shizune's relationship with Hisao to an extent as well, which led to Shizune deciding that she wasn't fit to have friends close to her, and to alienate herself from people to work out what her next step was. If you choose the good ending, there is no massive underlying guilt between the main characters, which means that they manage to patch up their comparatively minor grievances and become friends again. Leastways, that's how I remember it.
Ah....I see....yeah that does make sense. Thanks :)
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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by GaseousMask » Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:31 pm

Hitman3256 wrote: At 66% completion, I still have Hanako and Lilly to do, probably in that order. Hanako seems interesting, but Lilly im not looking forward to, Shizune has rubbed off on me.
Those two for last eh? Get ready for the feels man. Get. Ready.

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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by Hitman3256 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:08 pm

Christ, now you people are making me feel worse and worse....

In my just recent attempt, (trying for Hanako somehow) I managed to do the worst ending possible.
I guess it makes sense for it to be there, and I knew I'd find it eventually but not accidentally either, the path that doesnt have Hisao chasing anyone is very comical when I went through it, extremely stupid by Hisao and very very depressing that he just went out and got drunk with Kenji; Im like....wow, that was complete failure, then the idiot goes and accidentally kills himself.

Well....time for a re-try!
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Post by Robnonymous » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:10 pm

GaseousMask wrote:
Hitman3256 wrote: At 66% completion, I still have Hanako and Lilly to do, probably in that order. Hanako seems interesting, but Lilly im not looking forward to, Shizune has rubbed off on me.
Those two for last eh? Get ready for the feels man. Get. Ready.

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Post by yipyapper » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:23 pm

This kind of thing is everywhere. You are so far from being alone with that post.
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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by Hitman3256 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:25 pm

I'm in act 2 with Hanako so far... :P
Seems pretty smooth.
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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by GaseousMask » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:37 pm

Hitman3256 wrote:Christ, now you people are making me feel worse and worse....

In my just recent attempt, (trying for Hanako somehow) I managed to do the worst ending possible.
I guess it makes sense for it to be there, and I knew I'd find it eventually but not accidentally either, the path that doesnt have Hisao chasing anyone is very comical when I went through it, extremely stupid by Hisao and very very depressing that he just went out and got drunk with Kenji; Im like....wow, that was complete failure, then the idiot goes and accidentally kills himself.

Well....time for a re-try!
Or was it an accident!? Haha if you remember from Emi's route (lol if i remember correctly) Kenji said if he were to kill someone, he would bring them up to the roof and get that person to fall off and make it seem like an accident, and in Hisao's case, getting him drunk. ALL ACCORDING TO KENJI'S MASTER PLAN!

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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by Hitman3256 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:44 pm

GaseousMask wrote:
Hitman3256 wrote:Christ, now you people are making me feel worse and worse....

In my just recent attempt, (trying for Hanako somehow) I managed to do the worst ending possible.
I guess it makes sense for it to be there, and I knew I'd find it eventually but not accidentally either, the path that doesnt have Hisao chasing anyone is very comical when I went through it, extremely stupid by Hisao and very very depressing that he just went out and got drunk with Kenji; Im like....wow, that was complete failure, then the idiot goes and accidentally kills himself.

Well....time for a re-try!
Or was it an accident!? Haha if you remember from Emi's route (lol if i remember correctly) Kenji said if he were to kill someone, he would bring them up to the roof and get that person to fall off and make it seem like an accident, and in Hisao's case, getting him drunk. ALL ACCORDING TO KENJI'S MASTER PLAN!
OHMYGOD YOURE SO RIGHT!!!!

Kenji did seem pretty chill when he got up even though they were both drunk....BUT. . . .
whats the motive??
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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by GaseousMask » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:09 pm

Hitman3256 wrote:
GaseousMask wrote:
Hitman3256 wrote:Christ, now you people are making me feel worse and worse....

In my just recent attempt, (trying for Hanako somehow) I managed to do the worst ending possible.
I guess it makes sense for it to be there, and I knew I'd find it eventually but not accidentally either, the path that doesnt have Hisao chasing anyone is very comical when I went through it, extremely stupid by Hisao and very very depressing that he just went out and got drunk with Kenji; Im like....wow, that was complete failure, then the idiot goes and accidentally kills himself.

Well....time for a re-try!
Or was it an accident!? Haha if you remember from Emi's route (lol if i remember correctly) Kenji said if he were to kill someone, he would bring them up to the roof and get that person to fall off and make it seem like an accident, and in Hisao's case, getting him drunk. ALL ACCORDING TO KENJI'S MASTER PLAN!
OHMYGOD YOURE SO RIGHT!!!!

Kenji did seem pretty chill when he got up even though they were both drunk....BUT. . . .
whats the motive??
Beats me, my theory is that Kenji might have suspected Hisao to be a double agent implanted by the feminists to spy on him seeing how Hisao transferred into the school during the senior year haha. With the invasion imminent and all

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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by newnar » Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:21 pm

I second the above post. Got ninja'ed.
I am a guy.
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I am in love with Hanako Ikezawa.
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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by Hitman3256 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:45 pm

Just played through Hanako's arc.

Found nothing wrong.

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Re: (My) Introduction, thoughts and a question

Post by geekahedron » Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:00 am

Hitman3256 wrote:Just played through Hanako's arc.

Found nothing wrong.
Man, people keep saying this, but is no one else bothered by what amounts to date rape in the "good" ending? Seriously, it's here's a big emotional moment where she bares her body as a symbolic act of baring her soul and opening up and there's going to be a deep ... what, okay, let's have awkward sex instead, I guess. :? I know it was part of the story, but I would really have liked to see a good good ending where Hisao didn't act like a total tool.

That aside, found nothing wrong with Hanako herself, though <3
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