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Re: Ask!

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:26 am
by Passerby
I've only completed the routes of Emi, Hanako and Lilly. But from what I've seen so far, these stories are completely devoid of the one thing that is so ubiquitous in teenagers' lives in a modern society today - social media. No one tweets, no one updates their Facebook status, no taking of pictures and sharing of them, and no sending of text messages even. The phone that Hanako uses in her story is clearly not a smart phone. Since it is said that it is expensive and a gift from Lilly, it must be a late model and not something cheap that Lilly picked up from the discount section. I feel as if the stories are set in the early to mid 2000s because of these.

So, my question is this: Is it a deliberate artistic direction? If so, why?
Does the inception of this project being in the mid-2000s have anything to do with this?
Or is this a VN trope? (I haven't played many VNs)

I haven't read the whole thread so my apologies if these questions have been asked and answered.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:53 am
by Aura
Yes, the story is not set in the year you're reading it in. This would've been difficult for us to pull off. Approximately as hard would've been setting it in the release year, because there was no way for us to know what year we were going to release. So the story is set in a year we were actually familiar with at the time we had to decide this.

Social media, as ubiquitous as it is now, was not a core part of people's lives 5-10 years ago (which is the setting of KS, roughly in 2007). Same for smart phones. Facebook, Twitter, iPhone - all of these have come to wider public consciousness after the events of KS. We also just didn't feel like making a point of something like Emi talking to people on mixi or other stuff that would've been chronologically realistic. She probably does, it just is irrelevant to the story.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:40 pm
by bhtooefr
Is Hisao's guess at Hideaki's age (15-16) right, or given that he also got Hideaki's gender wrong, did he get his age wrong (presumably too high of a guess)? If so, how old is Hideaki?

Re: Ask!

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:07 am
by ksfan1989
Here's one that I just can't wrap my head around:

How are Shizune and Lilly related? I mean, I know they're cousins, but what's the connection? More specifically, where does the Satou family name fit into the picture?

If Lilly's father is Jigoro's brother, then they should share a family name. But if Lilly's mother is Jigoro's sister, Lilly's father would be Scottish and Lilly's family name should be Scottish. The only way I can figure out that this would work is if Jigoro took his wife's name, but given what we know about him that doesn't seem like something he'd be willing to do.

What am I missing here? Or is this just a plot hole?

Oh, and another question (hope I'm not asking too many!).

Who recorded the background voices for the "crowd" scenes? Like, in the cafeteria, there's a bunch of background chatter that's really hard to make out. Is that the devs? Any chance we can find out what's actually being said? It mostly sounds like nonsense but it's hard to make out clearly.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:03 am
by Erenussocrates
^ Adding to the last question, also where did those crowds voices got recorded?

And... Do you know about Cards Against Humanity board/card game? I've seen an online browser adaptation of that game on Google, and upon checking up, seen that it also features cards with Katawa Shoujo theme too.
Here is the exact site: http://pyz.socialgamer.net/index.php
Did you know about this?

Re: Ask!

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:14 am
by Guest Poster
How are Shizune and Lilly related? I mean, I know they're cousins, but what's the connection? More specifically, where does the Satou family name fit into the picture?

If Lilly's father is Jigoro's brother, then they should share a family name. But if Lilly's mother is Jigoro's sister, Lilly's father would be Scottish and Lilly's family name should be Scottish. The only way I can figure out that this would work is if Jigoro took his wife's name, but given what we know about him that doesn't seem like something he'd be willing to do.
This one was answered a few times already somewhere in here. The statement that Jigoro and Lilly's dad are brothers turned out to be an oversight. In reality, they're brothers-in-law. Shizune's mother is the one whose last named used to be Satou.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:07 pm
by Aura
bhtooefr wrote:Is Hisao's guess at Hideaki's age (15-16) right, or given that he also got Hideaki's gender wrong, did he get his age wrong (presumably too high of a guess)? If so, how old is Hideaki?
He got it about right.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:09 pm
by Aura
ksfan1989 wrote:Who recorded the background voices for the "crowd" scenes? Like, in the cafeteria, there's a bunch of background chatter that's really hard to make out. Is that the devs? Any chance we can find out what's actually being said? It mostly sounds like nonsense but it's hard to make out clearly.
This again.

The crowd noise is from some sound bank delta had, you can dig through the thread to find the exact one from the previous times this question has been asked. We don't know what's said.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:11 am
by Kon22
Erenussocrates wrote:^ Adding to the last question, also where did those crowds voices got recorded?

And... Do you know about Cards Against Humanity board/card game? I've seen an online browser adaptation of that game on Google, and upon checking up, seen that it also features cards with Katawa Shoujo theme too.
Here is the exact site: http://pyz.socialgamer.net/index.php
Did you know about this?
I know I'm not a dev, but may I ask in which card pack? I've been playing for a while with the anime's one and I didn't see nothing. Don't know where those cards could be.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:26 am
by Erenussocrates
Kon22 wrote: I know I'm not a dev, but may I ask in which card pack? I've been playing for a while with the anime's one and I didn't see nothing. Don't know where those cards could be.
I just enabled every card pack except Polish translation category on that round, enabled everything, including all anime packs, and 4chan packs too. And I've seen two white cards related to KS on that same round. One was writing "Misha (from Katawa Shuojo)" and other was "Hanako (from Katawa Shuojo)". You should see them if you enable all anime cards maybe. Or just enable everything.

Mr. Aura, I hope you've noticed my notification about this matter.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:05 am
by Aura
No I didn't know about the CAH cards, but that's an unofficial online clone of the game right? It's not surprising that a semi-popular game gets cards made out of it.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:48 am
by LemonPirate
As a writer myself I often find that I will subconsciously (or consciously) draw Ideas or Inspiration from other novels or even historical events. As a writer yourself, how often and what did you draw inspiration off during the writing of KS, if at all and if your peers (the other writers in the dev team) did also draw ideas from other novels or events (non-personal)? If you could be specific that would be great :D
Thanks Aura :)

-LemonPirate

Re: Ask!

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:35 am
by Aura
I can't think at least off the top of my head of anything in KS that I've written where I could say something like "yeah this bit here, this was inspired by so-and-so", except I guess the part where I do a metaphor of the nature of art with a stanza from Blake's Auguries of Innocence. Inspiration and influence for me are more vague things, all the stuff that I experience melts together into some sort of concept soup from which I "get my ideas from". It's often not easy to pin down. That said, of course literature is and should be a massive continuous process, with writers of every generation being inspired by the ones before them and so on.

Re: Ask!

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:09 pm
by LemonPirate
Aura wrote:I can't think at least off the top of my head of anything in KS that I've written where I could say something like "yeah this bit here, this was inspired by so-and-so", except I guess the part where I do a metaphor of the nature of art with a stanza from Blake's Auguries of Innocence. Inspiration and influence for me are more vague things, all the stuff that I experience melts together into some sort of concept soup from which I "get my ideas from". It's often not easy to pin down. That said, of course literature is and should be a massive continuous process, with writers of every generation being inspired by the ones before them and so on.
Thanks Aura, I couldn't have asked for a better answer :D
-LemonPirate

Re: Ask!

Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:33 pm
by icannotfindausername
Why is my login not being recognized in the "Shimmie" section.
And for that matter; what the hell is the Shimmie section ?