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Re: Ask!

Post by ArcCain » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:48 am

Raziel wrote:Is the final picture in the gallery deliberately impossible to get , like a troll
Or do you have to do something specific to get it ,
Cos i've looked online for the final picture , and nothing comes out...
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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:28 pm

Tang wrote:Was it a reference to I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell?

Were there times during the development of KS where you could just sit back and look at the (slow) progress, and say "Wow" because you could suddenly see it coming together?
Totally. Playing the game in engine always gave me good vibes. Because most of the development was staring at text processor screens, staring at code files, staring at forums or staring at messaging clients, the experience of the actual game in all of its vibrance was really great in contrast.
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Re: Ask!

Post by TheHivemind » Sun Mar 31, 2013 10:57 pm

Miguel wrote:This question may be a little bit tricky. Why is Emi's behavior so different between the good and the bad ending (at the track just after Misha asks you about your problems with her ) although the fact that you decide trust Misha or not shouldn't have a direct effect on her behavior?

I made Emi's route blind and I got the bad ending at first. I got a little bit angry when I repeated this part to get the good ending and saw great differences that I didn't get at all. :?

Also sorry for my bad expression English isn't my mother tongue. :oops:
The reason Emi's behavior is different is twofold:

First, if you talk to Misha Hisao actually winds up talking to Emi a lot sooner than you would have otherwise. Second, talking to Misha causes Hisao to approach Emi differently, which in turn causes her to act differently.

That's the story reason.

The game reason is because Misha's talk with you was added in as a safety valve after some of the initial feedback was that we should put in a last chance to save yourself rather than having it all hinge on the dinner scene.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Chaon » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:01 am

Is Shizune born deaf? Because the people who born deaf don't have abillities in both read or write. (they don't know the voice.)

To be honest, I'm not read all of her story maybe I miss some of her information.


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Re: Ask!

Post by Helbereth » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:51 pm

Chaon wrote:Is Shizune born deaf? Because the people who born deaf don't have abillities in both read or write. (they don't know the voice.)

To be honest, I'm not read all of her story maybe I miss some of her information.


Thanks.
If I'm getting what you're asking, your assumption is that people born deaf can't learn to read or write... which is a completely visual thing, and has nothing to do with hearing. What deaf people usually can't do is speak, even if they're not mute--they never learn to imitate phonetic structure because they can't hear people talking. Reading and writing have nothing to do with hearing directly. I imagine it's easier to learn the basics if you can hear someone explain it, but that can be gotten across through gestures (sign language), and the symbols speak for themselves.

As for Shizune specifically, I'm not entirely certain about the specifics, but, based on my reading, she was probably born deaf.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Kwyna » Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:32 pm

For Nicol,

KS pretty much introduced me to classical music, I'm ashamed to say. I wanted to ask how long you've been playing and composing. And if you had any advice for someone who wanted to learn piano in his spare time.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Nicol Armarfi » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:03 pm

Kwyna wrote:For Nicol,

KS pretty much introduced me to classical music, I'm ashamed to say. I wanted to ask how long you've been playing and composing. And if you had any advice for someone who wanted to learn piano in his spare time.
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Re: Ask!

Post by neio » Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:01 pm

Nicol Armarfi wrote:
Kwyna wrote:For Nicol,

KS pretty much introduced me to classical music, I'm ashamed to say. I wanted to ask how long you've been playing and composing. And if you had any advice for someone who wanted to learn piano in his spare time.
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This is the only answer. Although I'd revise it to "deliberate practice."
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Practice_( ... e_practice

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Re: Ask!

Post by Glitter Freeze » Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:50 pm

Was is drawn by Suriko?

Also, is there a source file for the carillon bells of Yamaku?
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Re: Ask!

Post by Suriko » Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:01 pm

Glitter Freeze wrote:
Was is drawn by Suriko?

Also, is there a source file for the carillon bells of Yamaku?
It was drawn by Skim. I just did the shitty vector+wall. Source image is here
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Re: Question for the Devs

Post by Cereal_Guy_Dan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:24 am

Aura wrote:Well, to turn the question around: why should we make KS2? I can't think of a single good reason to return to KS. It's just not very interesting because I feel we did enough with this setting already. I think it's better to do something fresh that actually really fires me up.
I did what I always do in any sort of public forum and broke my keyboard w/ a response - now I'm going to shorten it for you (and it's still TL, but please R anyway.) Pathetic fanboying ahead.

Firstly, none of this is intended in a confrontational tone. That said, I've seen this answer several times and don't get it - they're all about to graduate and you can change the setting to any place, their ages to any number, and their situation to whatever you can come up with (look in your fanfic forum and you'll see dozens of people doing just that!). You have thousands of fans hooked (yes, still) on the characters you so lovingly crafted over a period of years of your lives. I may be way off the mark, but to me the people asking for something like what you detailed in your April Fool's blog are in a tiny minority. I don't want a new cast or a high school setting - I want the further adventures of the characters you've already given me written and drawn by 4LS.

I hope I won't offend by mentioning money - b/c as we all know, it was obviously never a factor - but I will tell you right now that if you released 6 sequels (or less if Misha x Shizune pans out) detailing each girl post-high school finding romance after not being "chosen" by Hisao from her own POV, I'd be hitting Paypal for every one of them. Even better for me personally - you tell me a Hanako/Hisao story (or stories) in which they remember telling Lilly about their relationship, remember the first time they made love with no agenda (doesn't have to be explicit, I just want the feels), visit her parents' grave, meet his parents together for the first time, go to university, get married, etc, etc, etc and i will tear out one of my kidneys with my teeth and gingerly hand it to whomever wants it (I can't physically do that, so let's stick with Paypal). I would buy (or donate to) this property over any game/book/movie I can think of (except maybe if they continued HBO's "Carnivale" in comic book/animated format). Give me a button right now and I'll retroactively donate for the first one! My point is, there are people who are very passionate about what you've done here.

If the idea of further associating with KS in any way is torturous and deadening to you as artists, I certainly respect you for refusing to force it, and I suppose I'm left to: accept it, say no more about it, and get what I can from fanfics. I'm probably just too myopic to understand how you all spent (and are still spending, via this forum) so many years with these characters to close your minds to ever taking up their stories again. You can't be close minded people - look what you created from a forum post about a smattering of character details and pictures on a page!

Thanks for reading and please accept my apologies if I've offended,
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Re: Question for the Devs

Post by Aura » Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:51 pm

Cereal_Guy_Dan wrote:
Aura wrote:Well, to turn the question around: why should we make KS2? I can't think of a single good reason to return to KS. It's just not very interesting because I feel we did enough with this setting already. I think it's better to do something fresh that actually really fires me up.
I did what I always do in any sort of public forum and broke my keyboard w/ a response - now I'm going to shorten it for you (and it's still TL, but please R anyway.) Pathetic fanboying ahead.

Firstly, none of this is intended in a confrontational tone. That said, I've seen this answer several times and don't get it - they're all about to graduate and you can change the setting to any place, their ages to any number, and their situation to whatever you can come up with (look in your fanfic forum and you'll see dozens of people doing just that!). You have thousands of fans hooked (yes, still) on the characters you so lovingly crafted over a period of years of your lives. I may be way off the mark, but to me the people asking for something like what you detailed in your April Fool's blog are in a tiny minority. I don't want a new cast or a high school setting - I want the further adventures of the characters you've already given me written and drawn by 4LS.

I hope I won't offend by mentioning money - b/c as we all know, it was obviously never a factor - but I will tell you right now that if you released 6 sequels (or less if Misha x Shizune pans out) detailing each girl post-high school finding romance after not being "chosen" by Hisao from her own POV, I'd be hitting Paypal for every one of them. Even better for me personally - you tell me a Hanako/Hisao story (or stories) in which they remember telling Lilly about their relationship, remember the first time they made love with no agenda (doesn't have to be explicit, I just want the feels), visit her parents' grave, meet his parents together for the first time, go to university, get married, etc, etc, etc and i will tear out one of my kidneys with my teeth and gingerly hand it to whomever wants it (I can't physically do that, so let's stick with Paypal). I would buy (or donate to) this property over any game/book/movie I can think of (except maybe if they continued HBO's "Carnivale" in comic book/animated format). Give me a button right now and I'll retroactively donate for the first one! My point is, there are people who are very passionate about what you've done here.

If the idea of further associating with KS in any way is torturous and deadening to you as artists, I certainly respect you for refusing to force it, and I suppose I'm left to: accept it, say no more about it, and get what I can from fanfics. I'm probably just too myopic to understand how you all spent (and are still spending, via this forum) so many years with these characters to close your minds to ever taking up their stories again. You can't be close minded people - look what you created from a forum post about a smattering of character details and pictures on a page!

Thanks for reading and please accept my apologies if I've offended,
a fan
The idea of making more KS is not torturous or anything dramatic like that. It's just less interesting than a number of other things I could be doing. And because there are no other forces in play, it's unlikely I end up doing more KS in any foreseeable future. I'd probably rather do what I feel like doing, right? Sure, if I wanted to seriously make money from making VNs, a KS sequel would be right at the top of the list of stuff to do, but that's not very appealing due to all the downsides.

The reason why more KS isn't an interesting idea by itself is a result of many factors, some which I've mentioned when this question has been brought up in the past.
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Re: Question for the Devs

Post by Cereal_Guy_Dan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 7:13 pm

Aura wrote:
Cereal_Guy_Dan wrote:
Aura wrote:Well, to turn the question around: why should we make KS2? I can't think of a single good reason to return to KS. It's just not very interesting because I feel we did enough with this setting already. I think it's better to do something fresh that actually really fires me up.
I did what I always do in any sort of public forum and broke my keyboard w/ a response - now I'm going to shorten it for you (and it's still TL, but please R anyway.) Pathetic fanboying ahead.

Firstly, none of this is intended in a confrontational tone. That said, I've seen this answer several times and don't get it - they're all about to graduate and you can change the setting to any place, their ages to any number, and their situation to whatever you can come up with (look in your fanfic forum and you'll see dozens of people doing just that!). You have thousands of fans hooked (yes, still) on the characters you so lovingly crafted over a period of years of your lives. I may be way off the mark, but to me the people asking for something like what you detailed in your April Fool's blog are in a tiny minority. I don't want a new cast or a high school setting - I want the further adventures of the characters you've already given me written and drawn by 4LS.

I hope I won't offend by mentioning money - b/c as we all know, it was obviously never a factor - but I will tell you right now that if you released 6 sequels (or less if Misha x Shizune pans out) detailing each girl post-high school finding romance after not being "chosen" by Hisao from her own POV, I'd be hitting Paypal for every one of them. Even better for me personally - you tell me a Hanako/Hisao story (or stories) in which they remember telling Lilly about their relationship, remember the first time they made love with no agenda (doesn't have to be explicit, I just want the feels), visit her parents' grave, meet his parents together for the first time, go to university, get married, etc, etc, etc and i will tear out one of my kidneys with my teeth and gingerly hand it to whomever wants it (I can't physically do that, so let's stick with Paypal). I would buy (or donate to) this property over any game/book/movie I can think of (except maybe if they continued HBO's "Carnivale" in comic book/animated format). Give me a button right now and I'll retroactively donate for the first one! My point is, there are people who are very passionate about what you've done here.

If the idea of further associating with KS in any way is torturous and deadening to you as artists, I certainly respect you for refusing to force it, and I suppose I'm left to: accept it, say no more about it, and get what I can from fanfics. I'm probably just too myopic to understand how you all spent (and are still spending, via this forum) so many years with these characters to close your minds to ever taking up their stories again. You can't be close minded people - look what you created from a forum post about a smattering of character details and pictures on a page!

Thanks for reading and please accept my apologies if I've offended,
a fan
The idea of making more KS is not torturous or anything dramatic like that. It's just less interesting than a number of other things I could be doing. And because there are no other forces in play, it's unlikely I end up doing more KS in any foreseeable future. I'd probably rather do what I feel like doing, right? Sure, if I wanted to seriously make money from making VNs, a KS sequel would be right at the top of the list of stuff to do, but that's not very appealing due to all the downsides.

The reason why more KS isn't an interesting idea by itself is a result of many factors, some which I've mentioned when this question has been brought up in the past.
Fair enough. I understand slice of life stuff can be dull. I get that you all feel as though you've said all you had to say through these characters even though it's not all I want to hear from them. I've seen the responses to this question and I know you're all very sick of hearing requests about it - so I genuinely appreciate that you didn't become frustrated with me. I've written something like this several times and deleted it each time without posting- but finally after the April Fool's thing, I thought if I was ever going to say something it might as well be now. It's far from the first or best written request, and you've doubtlessly received better ideas, but now at least I feel better having shared mine. I wouldn't be able to do that if you folks weren't open enough to allow your fans to talk to you about these things. I really appreciate it, and as always, thanks for KS and I'll look forward to what you do in the future.

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Re: Question for the Devs

Post by Orieujac » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:39 am

Aura wrote:Well, to turn the question around: why should we make KS2? I can't think of a single good reason to return to KS. It's just not very interesting because I feel we did enough with this setting already. I think it's better to do something fresh that actually really fires me up.
Well, after reading so many good fan-fics, i started to wonder that maybe expanding KS by adding more routes, more interactions with other classmates (Hisao doesnt talk to most), polishing the currently available routes and adding some little epilogues after each route is a good idea.

Something like the 2011 April Fools expansion is the best i can think of. Extending the current routes too much would make them dull.

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Re: Question for the Devs

Post by cpl_crud » Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:58 am

Orieujac wrote:
Aura wrote:Well, to turn the question around: why should we make KS2? I can't think of a single good reason to return to KS. It's just not very interesting because I feel we did enough with this setting already. I think it's better to do something fresh that actually really fires me up.
Well, after reading so many good fan-fics, i started to wonder that maybe expanding KS by adding more routes, more interactions with other classmates (Hisao doesnt talk to most), polishing the currently available routes and adding some little epilogues after each route is a good idea.

Something like the 2011 April Fools expansion is the best i can think of. Extending the current routes too much would make them dull.
I think you are confusing "what would e interesting to read" with Aura's point of "what would be interesting for us to write."

I'm much more into scifi and action these days (well, all days really. KS was a total departure for me). Writing about school worries just doesn't make me want to bash the keys...
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