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Re: Ask!

Post by TheHivemind » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:17 pm

MutilatedManequin wrote:Can't be nackerd to dig through 180 pages lol. Did the production of KS interrupt your daily routine or life any? How did You divide time between KS and irl
I was in school for a lot of KS' production, which meant that I had lots of free time. When I had a job, it was just something I did in the evenings or indeed on weekends. You make the time, and while I am sure that I would have done something else instead if I hadn't been writing KS, it probably would not have been as productive. I only really started having something like a daily routine like two years ago and the game was pretty much finished by then so I can't say it disrupted my 'routine.'
Woody Alien wrote:When helping Rin paint the mural in Act 1, Hisao mentions reading a book about some people drinking beer and doing little else. What kind of book is that?
Literary fiction is largely about people leading mundane lives. Hell if I know which actual book is being referenced, but possibly "a good book."
Brogurt wrote: Anyway, has this dichotomy ever influenced KS in any manner? Were there ever large disagreements on what to include on the principle of it violating or not violating "canon"? Extras come to mind, such as scenes or content not existing within any one path or continuity. And yes I know about the Miki path, but I'm not really interested unless it relates to this question.
What Miki path? You mean the one we bullshitted about and were never actually that serious about?

We lie ALL THE TIME is the best way to understand it. The only thing you can safely consider canon is what's in the game. Anything else should be viewed with suspicion.

And yeah we never felt the urge to put all that stuff Aura mentioned in because they really are fucking dumb.

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Re: Ask!

Post by ArcCain » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:24 pm

TheHivemind wrote:And yeah we never felt the urge to put all that stuff Aura mentioned in because they really are fucking dumb.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:25 pm

ArcCain wrote:
Suriko wrote:I have zero interest in writing a Japanese high school story ever again.
A few of the writers has said the same thing, care to elaborate on it? Why would you not want to write about Japanese high school story´s?
Mostly it's just that too much of the same thing makes it boring as hell. The high school setting is insanely overused in Japanese pop fiction, there's not much room to explore it in interesting ways. It also puts constrains the story in ways I don't like (or you have to break out of them with really stupid bullshit).
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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:27 pm

Woody Alien wrote:When helping Rin paint the mural in Act 1, Hisao mentions reading a book about some people drinking beer and doing little else. What kind of book is that?
It was a throwaway reference to a book I was reading at the time or recently finished, much like crud's Life of Pi or some other novels Hisao reads throughout KS. I didn't name the book because it's not actually translated to Japanese, and it remains a fun "easter egg" for industrious readers to figure out what book I mean. Nobody so far has gotten it right.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:34 pm

muliebrity wrote:Were any of you fans of Raita's work before you started working on the game, or had you not heard of him before that image was posted on 4-chan?
While I wasn't really a fan of his, RAITA was not unknown to me, probably not for many others either. At the time he was most famous for his peculiar way of drawing girls, in the west especially for an erotic Azumanga Daioh doujin he did and his penchant for really great military and mechanical design.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:37 pm

Raziel wrote:ASL?
In other words,
If you don't mind me asking, where are you guys from (IRL)
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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:41 pm

Raziel wrote:Describe Rin's path of thought,
I think of my own more like a big ball of wobbly wobbly thinking... thing..

Does rin have aspergers? Some ppl speculate so...
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Re: Ask!

Post by TheHivemind » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:48 pm

Aura wrote:
ArcCain wrote:
Suriko wrote:I have zero interest in writing a Japanese high school story ever again.
A few of the writers has said the same thing, care to elaborate on it? Why would you not want to write about Japanese high school story´s?
Mostly it's just that too much of the same thing makes it boring as hell. The high school setting is insanely overused in Japanese pop fiction, there's not much room to explore it in interesting ways. It also puts constrains the story in ways I don't like (or you have to break out of them with really stupid bullshit).
Elaborating further:
Because the setting has been done into the ground. Because high school is actually really fucking boring. Because the idea that high school is THE MOST IMPORTANT YEARS OF YOUR LIFE is fucking dumb. Because there are literally thousands of other ideas out there that are more interesting.

Because I do not really care that much about Japanese culture. Because the only reason KS was even set in a Japanese high school is 'cause five years ago that is what got a bunch of chucklefucks on /a/ to agree to make a game together and by the time we realized what a boring goddamn setting it is we were too late.
muliebrity wrote:Were any of you fans of Raita's work before you started working on the game, or had you not heard of him before that image was posted on 4-chan?
I didn't know who he was. I still don't really know his work beyond that one page.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Tang » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:05 pm

Was it a reference to I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell?

Were there times during the development of KS where you could just sit back and look at the (slow) progress, and say "Wow" because you could suddenly see it coming together?
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Re: Ask!

Post by Helbereth » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:12 pm

TheHivemind wrote: Elaborating further:
Because the setting has been done into the ground. Because high school is actually really fucking boring. Because the idea that high school is THE MOST IMPORTANT YEARS OF YOUR LIFE is fucking dumb. Because there are literally thousands of other ideas out there that are more interesting.

Because I do not really care that much about Japanese culture. Because the only reason KS was even set in a Japanese high school is 'cause five years ago that is what got a bunch of chucklefucks on /a/ to agree to make a game together and by the time we realized what a boring goddamn setting it is we were too late.
The same can probably be said for any story setting you've already used extensively. With all this in mind though, if you had the chance to direct the story into another location, I'm curious about where would you have set KS if not at a Japanese High School.

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Re: Ask!

Post by muliebrity » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:27 pm

Helbereth wrote:With all this in mind though, if you had the chance to direct the story into another location, I'm curious about where would you have set KS if not at a Japanese High School.
My thoughts exactly. I thought it was set in a high school because that was the concept in the first place.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Raziel » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:31 pm

I think i accidentally on rin , is that bad?

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Re: Ask!

Post by Shockproof Jamo » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:43 pm

Aura wrote:
Woody Alien wrote:When helping Rin paint the mural in Act 1, Hisao mentions reading a book about some people drinking beer and doing little else. What kind of book is that?
It was a throwaway reference to a book I was reading at the time or recently finished, much like crud's Life of Pi or some other novels Hisao reads throughout KS. I didn't name the book because it's not actually translated to Japanese, and it remains a fun "easter egg" for industrious readers to figure out what book I mean. Nobody so far has gotten it right.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Raziel » Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:44 pm

re-doing this since it came out wrong the first time ,
How does rin lack a Pubic hair but Emi has some? I think it should be the other way around...

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Re: Ask!

Post by Suriko » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:09 am

muliebrity wrote:Were any of you fans of Raita's work before you started working on the game, or had you not heard of him before that image was posted on 4-chan?
I followed his work beforehand. His mechanical designs are quite interesting, to my mind moreso than his girls. I'm a big Valkyria Chronicles game fan, too, and have a couple of his artbooks for it IRL.
Helbereth wrote:
TheHivemind wrote: Elaborating further:
Because the setting has been done into the ground. Because high school is actually really fucking boring. Because the idea that high school is THE MOST IMPORTANT YEARS OF YOUR LIFE is fucking dumb. Because there are literally thousands of other ideas out there that are more interesting.

Because I do not really care that much about Japanese culture. Because the only reason KS was even set in a Japanese high school is 'cause five years ago that is what got a bunch of chucklefucks on /a/ to agree to make a game together and by the time we realized what a boring goddamn setting it is we were too late.
The same can probably be said for any story setting you've already used extensively. With all this in mind though, if you had the chance to direct the story into another location, I'm curious about where would you have set KS if not at a Japanese High School.
1930sish Russian orphanage or boarding school. Probably not the most uplifting tale as one could imagine.

Japanese high school gets special mention as it really is a plague on the visual novel medium. It's difficult to think of another media so entirely gripped by a single setting, excepting very rare AAA releases or independents.
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