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Re: Ask!

Post by sanduba » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:09 pm

Is delta this delta? It's Kagetsu Tohya's credits.
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Best story:
Hanako > Rin > Lilly > Emi > Shizune

best girl:
Lilly > Shizune > Emi > Hanako > Rin

Eh, that's my opinion.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Aura » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:33 pm

Same delta.
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Re: Ask!

Post by OtakuNinja » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:30 pm

"There can only be one, like in that foreign movie where there could only be one, and in the end there is only one dude left, because that was the point."
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Re: Ask!

Post by Rikabro » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:42 pm

Do your parents or loved ones know about KS?
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Re: Ask!

Post by brythain » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:04 pm

I had a lot of questions, but two years and 233 pages of Q&A have answered most of them. Except…

1. Did any of you have specific 'voices' in your head when scripting the various main characters? This includes Shizune, because while she's mute, I'd guess it might be hard to think of things for her to say without any 'mental voice', so to speak. What did they sound like to you?

2. Did you ever wind up with a script 'bible' — a set of canonical material for each character, perhaps? From what I can tell so far, path writers acted as custodians of some main characters, but 'planning, documentation and communication should be more meticulous' and need for 'internal consistency' were mentioned. What form (if any) did such 'master' documents take?

3. Aura, you mentioned Rin's keywords as 'artistic' and 'hard to understand'. You also said that her persona was 'complete fabrication' and scripting her thoughts 'never really became natural to [you]'. What artificial process did you use to make Rin's thinking so… consistent? She's very literal-minded, for a start.

4. Why are Akira and Hideaki such good friends? The family dynamics are awkward in some ways, but those two appear mirror-images just as Shizune and Lilly also seem to be.

Thanks very much, all of you, for KS and being good-natured enough to answer questions!
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Re: Ask!

Post by TheHivemind » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:51 pm

Rikabro wrote:Do your parents or loved ones know about KS?
See this post for the amazing answer!

Yeah I answer shit on Tumblr sometimes. NOW YOU HAVE TO CHECK SEVERAL PLACES FOR ENLIGHTENMENT.
brythain wrote:I had a lot of questions, but two years and 233 pages of Q&A have answered most of them. Except…

1. Did any of you have specific 'voices' in your head when scripting the various main characters? This includes Shizune, because while she's mute, I'd guess it might be hard to think of things for her to say without any 'mental voice', so to speak. What did they sound like to you?
I never really had any specific voices, really. Or at least, the voices I had do not have any easy celebrity analogue for me to point to as a way of explanation.
2. Did you ever wind up with a script 'bible' — a set of canonical material for each character, perhaps? From what I can tell so far, path writers acted as custodians of some main characters, but 'planning, documentation and communication should be more meticulous' and need for 'internal consistency' were mentioned. What form (if any) did such 'master' documents take?
Somewhere, there's a map of Yamaku, which I failed to pay attention to. Every path started, in theory, with an outline (I wrote summaries for Emi and Rin, crud and Suriko I think worked together on Lily and Hanako(?), and A22 (I think) did Shizune's all on his own). There was never a big 'bible,' which really we should have done, because that may have helped with the game's internal consistency. Essentially we counted on each path writer to have figured all that stuff out on their own, and to read other paths to ensure 'their' girl was written somewhat consistently.
4. Why are Akira and Hideaki such good friends? The family dynamics are awkward in some ways, but those two appear mirror-images just as Shizune and Lilly also seem to be.
As I recall, we stuck them together because they both dressed like the opposite gender, and that was about the long and short of it for a while. If you want a better answer you'll have to wait for someone who actually used them.

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Re: Ask!

Post by brythain » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:41 am

Thank you, TheHivemind!

And since you dropped by, a question for you:

Emi is both the oldest and the shortest of the main characters; did you ever see her as a motherly type or a 'Yoda' type personality? *grin*
Post-Yamaku, what happens? After The Dream is a mosaic that follows everyone to the (sometimes) bitter end.
Main Index (Complete)Shizune/Lilly/Emi/Hanako/Rin/Misha + Miki + Natsume
Secondary Arcs: Rika/Mutou/AkiraHideaki | Others (WIP): Straw—A Dream of SuzuSakura—The Kenji Saga.
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Re: Ask!

Post by TheHivemind » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:02 am

brythain wrote:Thank you, TheHivemind!

And since you dropped by, a question for you:

Emi is both the oldest and the shortest of the main characters; did you ever see her as a motherly type or a 'Yoda' type personality? *grin*
A motherly sort of Emi never really crossed my mind. She'll take care of Rin, because they're friends, but that's as far as it really goes. Certainly she's not likely to have a desire for children any time soon.

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Re: Ask!

Post by Guest Poster » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:48 am

Ironically enough she's a bigger nanny towards the end of Act 1 than even Lilly, though that changes as Hisao gets his health in order.
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Re: Ask!

Post by Steinherz » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:18 pm

TheHivemind wrote:
Rikabro wrote:Do your parents or loved ones know about KS?
See this post for the amazing answer!
Now I'm wondering this:
What was your brother's opinion on your *cough* foray into writing plot with porn?
I write take a look, would you kindly?
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Re: Ask!

Post by TheHivemind » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:26 pm

Steinherz wrote:
TheHivemind wrote:
Rikabro wrote:Do your parents or loved ones know about KS?
See this post for the amazing answer!
Now I'm wondering this:
What was your brother's opinion on your *cough* foray into writing plot with porn?
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Re: Ask!

Post by HayStack44 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:35 pm

Quick question for the masses as much as the devs:

In Lilly's route when Hisao tells Shizune and Misha of his new relationship with Lilly, Shiz goes to sign something and then changes her mind and tells Misha not to translate. She then walks out with a casual wave at Hisao.

What was she going to say? Something derogatory about Lilly? Something about Lilly leaving for Scotland? Maybe that Hisao had his chance to be part of Yamaku's power couple and that she would've rocked his world?

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Re: Ask!

Post by Crashmaster » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:57 pm

Liminaut wrote: If one wanted to be painfully PoPoMo, one could suggest producing a VN about producing VNs, but serious contemplation of that project would likely drive Cthulhu into therapy.
It's funny you should say that, Anonymous22, NicolArmarfi, delta and climatic actually did make a visual novel about making a visual novel called "The Answer", which, if I'm not mistaken, was "officially" released under the 4LS name.
http://vndb.org/r2222

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Re: Ask!

Post by Liminaut » Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:56 am

Crashmaster wrote:
Liminaut wrote: If one wanted to be painfully PoPoMo, one could suggest producing a VN about producing VNs, but serious contemplation of that project would likely drive Cthulhu into therapy.
It's funny you should say that, Anonymous22, NicolArmarfi, delta and climatic actually did make a visual novel about making a visual novel called "The Answer", which, if I'm not mistaken, was "officially" released under the 4LS name.
http://vndb.org/r2222
Thanks a lot! Although looking at the web page art, I stand by my contention of "drive Cthulhu into therapy."

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Re: Ask!

Post by InfinitePez » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:55 pm

To Nicol.
Thank you so much for creating this music. The songs you all did really touched me. I am a pianist and currently learning "innocence". Thank you so much for creating such beautiful works of art. I fall asleep every night to some songs on the box. How long have you been playing piano? I was just wondering because your composition is pretty advanced.

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