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KS Expansion

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:50 pm
by MrKnives
This is just a quick idea i had by reading posts about other paths that will never be in the game, but couldn't it be possible to make an expansion of the game after this? I mean, during the dev the omake page said that playtime had to be 3 months, so, having in mind that hisao had his heart screwed up in winter and 4 months later (early april) he gets to Yamaku high, after 3 months it'd be july (end of first term in japanese high schools and start of summer vacations).

So, if his school year hadn't ended yet, could it be possible to make an expansion that tells about hisao's vacations (maybe) along qith his girl and another term of school to se if they really last as a couple or if it hisao would change his mind for another girl.

And please, for the love of any godly being, if you don't like post just refrain from making bad critics about the idea just because you don't like it, it's just my suggestion.

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:55 pm
by kosherbacon
At the very least, I know adding stuff to the actual game goes against the license. Making your own spin-off, on the other hand, I don't know.

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:40 pm
by Silentcook
Read here, here, and the fourteenth point in the FAQ.

Seriously, what is it with all the add-on/sequel questions recently? We aren't even done with the game yet. :x

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:29 pm
by ubergeneral
I think that the devs need to finish the game first. After that maybe they can start talking about an expansion.

If anything it could happen but if it did it would be something small, like a misha route and some new artwork. Not 5 new routes because that would be over kill

Another thought is what if fans got permission to make an expansion, like they and the devs came to some sort of agreement before starting or something? Could this be possible? Perhaps. But like a said lets finish the game and let it sit for a while. Then we can talk about making bonus stuff.

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:14 am
by Goldilurks
Silentcook wrote:Seriously, what is it with all the add-on/sequel questions recently? We aren't even done with the game yet. :x
Can you just imagine how much less annoying the fandom will be once the game is out to keep them occupied? *nudge nudge wink wink motivate motivate*

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:25 am
by Darlat
ubergeneral wrote:I think that the devs need to finish the game first. After that maybe they can start talking about an expansion.

If anything it could happen but if it did it would be something small, like a misha route and some new artwork. Not 5 new routes because that would be over kill

Another thought is what if fans got permission to make an expansion, like they and the devs came to some sort of agreement before starting or something? Could this be possible? Perhaps. But like a said lets finish the game and let it sit for a while. Then we can talk about making bonus stuff.
I think it's against the ren'py license, or atleast i heard somewhere it was something like that.

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:15 am
by Aura
Making expansions/spinoffs/whatever is against copyright laws and the game licence blah blah blah blah. Let's just say that we are not keen on letting other people screw around with the game assets, nor ever revisiting KS's setting again. Since we lack actual legal power to enforce our rights, it's more a polite request from our part: Please, let KS be what it is, okay?

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:25 pm
by MrKnives
Yeah yeah, i know this won't happen either, just thinking about it.

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:03 pm
by Leotrak
MrKnives wrote:so, having in mind that hisao had his heart screwed up in winter and 4 months later (early april) he gets to Yamaku high
Actually, when Hisao joins Yamaku, it's already early June ">_> I'm 100% sure that particular month is mentioned somewhere down the line, but I forgot where... So I guess he had that heart attack in late February (February to March, March to April, April to May, May to June, makes 4 months ">_>)

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:04 pm
by MrKnives
Hmmmm, now that i think about that, yeah it's June (Lilly mentioned it when rin asked what day it was) but being logical, how the hell did winter extend to february? O_o, is the global warming so grave?

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:19 pm
by Merlyn_LeRoy
Winter is usually defined as winter solstice (shortest day of the year in northern hemisphere) to equinox (day & night same length), so about Dec 22 to March 20.

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:39 pm
by Leotrak
MrKnives wrote:.. how the hell did winter extend to february? O_o, is the global warming so grave?
... It's been like that since this calendar was written up... O.o

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:28 am
by Guest
Aura wrote:Making expansions/spinoffs/whatever is against copyright laws and the game licence blah blah blah blah. Let's just say that we are not keen on letting other people screw around with the game assets, nor ever revisiting KS's setting again. Since we lack actual legal power to enforce our rights, it's more a polite request from our part: Please, let KS be what it is, okay?
Where do you draw the line, though? I mean, you're obviously cool with fan art and fan fiction, but would putting the two together into a fan visual novel be not cool?

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:47 am
by Aura
Basically, though there are no hard rules for it. Purely personally though, to me it's mostly about the degree of similarity with KS itself. For example, I don't pay any attention to the fan fiction forum, but if someone would rip open our script files, and write a 100 000 word "expansion" using our script format, it'd feel kinda weird, not to mention anything about making a VN out of it (or worse yet, using our game assets to do it)

Re: KS Expansion

Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 10:54 pm
by fragmentedfear
Aura wrote:Basically, though there are no hard rules for it. Purely personally though, to me it's mostly about the degree of similarity with KS itself. For example, I don't pay any attention to the fan fiction forum, but if someone would rip open our script files, and write a 100 000 word "expansion" using our script format, it'd feel kinda weird, not to mention anything about making a VN out of it (or worse yet, using our game assets to do it)
I'm just a random fan and even I would hate to see that happen. It's beyond disrespectful and rude to the original project and all the years it took you guys to make it, and it'd just be awkward to see happen. I can't imagine how you guys that are actually involved in KS would feel. I hope for all our sakes this never happens.

But, then again, I never understood the passion behind any kind of fanfiction, so maybe I'm just stubborn. If you are that inspired by this VN that you want to "add" (ugh) to it, then why not just take that inspiration and make something new and unique instead, ya know?