What you WOULD have wanted to happen in the story

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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by neumanproductions » Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:52 am

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Mr. wrote:I would personally like to see rins sex scene include a foot job and or other footfetish material.
When those scenes come up, I'm pretty much going to focus just on the text box and read through 'em as quickly as possible to get onto the rest of the plot.
To each his own I suppose. But I have to say, we can't expect a footjob scene no matter how blatantly obvious it would seem. :roll:
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Totz the Plaid » Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:23 am

neumanproductions wrote:To each his own I suppose.
I'm not sure if you're talking about my foot aversion, but if so, that's why it's known as a fetish and not a vanilla sexual desire.

If you're talking about my aversion to porn as a whole, though... Well, that I can't really explain. I mean, I can tell you that it just feels creepy and voyeuristic to me to look at it. Why is that? Well, that I can't rightly say, but I don't begrudge others for their enjoyment of it. *shrugs* Like you said: to each their own.

[Edit: When I tried to edit this before, I accidentally quoted myself and edited that. I've deleted that post, but I should probably log off and get some sleep if I'm making that sort of stupid error.]
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Darlat » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:43 am

Didn't the devs say that the h-scenes didn't include anything big in regards to plot and could be skipped?
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by G3n0c1de » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:36 pm

Darlat wrote:Didn't the devs say that the h-scenes didn't include anything big in regards to plot and could be skipped?
Actually, the devs said that while the h-scenes can be skipped, you would miss out on a big chunk of plot. They likened skipping an h-scene to skipping any other scene in the game. You would be disoriented because you have no idea how Hisao got to where he is, or why the other characters are talking about actions that you have no recollection of. They have said that there are no plans to include any sort of summary, or text that would fill in where the h-scene is. It is simply a jump.

Edit: Damn, I can't grammar today it seems.
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by scott1and » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:54 pm

G3n0c1de wrote:
Darlat wrote:Didn't the devs say that the h-scenes didn't include anything big in regards to plot and could be skipped?
Actually, the devs said that the h-scenes can be skipped, but you are missing out on a big chunk of plot. They likened skipping an h-scene to skipping any other scene in the game. You would be disoriented because you have no idea how Hisao gets to where he is, or why the other characters are talking about actions that you didn't know happened. They have said that there are no plans to include any sort of summary, or text that would fill in where the h-scene is. It is simply a jump.
and as a result, the devs will blackmail you into watching porn

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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Shujoxa » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:43 pm

G3n0c1de wrote:
Darlat wrote:Didn't the devs say that the h-scenes didn't include anything big in regards to plot and could be skipped?
Actually, the devs said that the h-scenes can be skipped, but would are missing out on a big chunk of plot. They likened skipping an h-scene to skipping any other scene in the game. You would be disoriented because you have no idea how Hisao got to where he is, or why the other characters are talking about actions that you have no recollection of. They have said that there are no plans to include any sort of summary, or text that would fill in where the h-scene is. It is simply a jump.
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Totz the Plaid » Mon Apr 11, 2011 9:50 pm

G3n0c1de wrote:They have said that there are no plans to include any sort of summary, or text that would fill in where the h-scene is. It is simply a jump.
Well, last I read (in the 'Erotica' thread), that there aren't currently any plans for there to be summary text. I don't remember them stating outright that folks like me would be screwed for sure if we wanted to skip the H-scenes. It was heavily implied, though, so you're probably right.
Mr. wrote:I would personally like to see rins sex scene include a foot job and or other footfetish material.
Also, speaking of the erotica thread (http://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=2661), you should probably post this there instead of here.

And just so this thread doesn't get too far off track:

I'd love some background on why some of the school staff are working at Yamaku rather than elsewhere. I mean, Nurse is obvious, but why Mutou? Yuuko? Nomiya? I think that'd be interesting, though admittedly it doesn't have much to do with the main romantic plot.
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Leotrak » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:11 am

Shujoxa wrote: "We sidestepped slowly toward the bed, my lips touching Hanako's gently as she timidly helped me loosen my tie..."

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"...I awoke in a dark alley with nausea and a headache that made me think that I had lost a match to Muhammad Ali."
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Suriko » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:18 am

Totz the Plaid wrote:
G3n0c1de wrote:They have said that there are no plans to include any sort of summary, or text that would fill in where the h-scene is. It is simply a jump.
Well, last I read (in the 'Erotica' thread), that there aren't currently any plans for there to be summary text. I don't remember them stating outright that folks like me would be screwed for sure if we wanted to skip the H-scenes. It was heavily implied, though, so you're probably right.
Folks like you will be screwed for sure if you want to skip the H-scenes.

Sorry to disappoint.

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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Totz the Plaid » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:35 am

Suriko wrote:Folks like you will be screwed for sure if you want to skip the H-scenes.

Sorry to disappoint.
Fair enough. Like I said, I'd already accepted that probability and if the visuals are too uncomfortable for me, then I'll just focus on the text boxes.
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Teclo » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:54 am

I like that the sex scenes are integrated into the story. In reality, sex isn't some sordid, parallel life - an addiction that you sneak off to sate every so often; it's as much a part of life as eating, drinking, hanging out with friends, going for a walk in the park - whatever. It's actually kind of juvenile to try and segregate it, since you're inadvertently putting it on a pedestal. It can seem odd to watch two other characters have sex, but everything you do in a VN will be voyeuristic. There's a very good argument that wanting to spend 30 hours watching someone going to school and eating lunch is far more creepy and inexplicable than wanting to watch them fuck.

The thing that raises it above voyeuristically peering in on someone's daily life is that there's a dramatic form to it; that it's not entertaining simply because you're spying on someone else (or pretending to be a young boy, depending on how you see it) but because of the dialogue, the interaction, the recognition of their actions as things you've done yourself, empathising with the characters, and because the whole thing is carved into some sort of meaningful narrative rather than just being an illustrated form of spying on a young boy's daily life for a good many of hours. If the sex is merely tacked on, it's returning to just being voyeuristic (but again, at least a natural and reasonable form of voyeurism); if sex is totally absent, it's unrealistic and there's an important part of life mysteriously absent; if it's done believably and integrated well, it's justified by that list of things I just mentioned that also justify the whole experience.
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Shujoxa » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:03 pm

Suriko wrote:
Totz the Plaid wrote:
G3n0c1de wrote:They have said that there are no plans to include any sort of summary, or text that would fill in where the h-scene is. It is simply a jump.
Well, last I read (in the 'Erotica' thread), that there aren't currently any plans for there to be summary text. I don't remember them stating outright that folks like me would be screwed for sure if we wanted to skip the H-scenes. It was heavily implied, though, so you're probably right.
Folks like you will be screwed for sure if you want to skip the H-scenes.

Sorry to disappoint.
While I seriously doubt it'll be the exact same scenario, will it be about on the same level as the scenario I posted earlier?
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Sid Vicious » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:56 pm

Have a threesome with hanako and lily and kill shizune
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Mercutio » Wed Apr 13, 2011 9:51 pm

Teclo wrote:I like that the sex scenes are integrated into the story. In reality, sex isn't some sordid, parallel life - an addiction that you sneak off to sate every so often; it's as much a part of life as eating, drinking, hanging out with friends, going for a walk in the park - whatever. It's actually kind of juvenile to try and segregate it, since you're inadvertently putting it on a pedestal. It can seem odd to watch two other characters have sex, but everything you do in a VN will be voyeuristic. There's a very good argument that wanting to spend 30 hours watching someone going to school and eating lunch is far more creepy and inexplicable than wanting to watch them fuck.

The thing that raises it above voyeuristically peering in on someone's daily life is that there's a dramatic form to it; that it's not entertaining simply because you're spying on someone else (or pretending to be a young boy, depending on how you see it) but because of the dialogue, the interaction, the recognition of their actions as things you've done yourself, empathising with the characters, and because the whole thing is carved into some sort of meaningful narrative rather than just being an illustrated form of spying on a young boy's daily life for a good many of hours. If the sex is merely tacked on, it's returning to just being voyeuristic (but again, at least a natural and reasonable form of voyeurism); if sex is totally absent, it's unrealistic and there's an important part of life mysteriously absent; if it's done believably and integrated well, it's justified by that list of things I just mentioned that also justify the whole experience.
if I could high-five you through the internet, I would.

seriously. you just summed up everything I think about the sex scenes and why they're important, why they're part of the story and not just fap material, and you did it a ton better than I ever could. (mostly 'cause you didn't use words like 'fap material.') thank you.
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Re: What you WOULD want to happen in the story

Post by Teclo » Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:42 pm

Mercutio wrote: if I could high-five you through the internet, I would.

seriously. you just summed up everything I think about the sex scenes and why they're important, why they're part of the story and not just fap material, and you did it a ton better than I ever could. (mostly 'cause you didn't use words like 'fap material.') thank you.
Thanks to you too. You just made it worthwhile to type all that shit out. :wink:
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