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Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:16 pm
by Anonymous22
write better
draw better
visual novels are somewhere between a written story and a play

meta shit sucks

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:26 pm
by Xybaro
Aura wrote: There was a project to adapt the scifi short story Dandelion Girl into a VN last year. DG was written 1961 and is an acclaimed story, one of the more famous short stories ever written. So okay, technically this would be at least on the way to something like what I'm envisioning here right? However, the people who adapted it tampered with the script, adding animeisms, references and shit, all but wrecking the sublime original (in my opinion). Add the animesque character art and yeah... you get the idea. It basically underlines why I think the current state of visual novel as a medium is "fubar".
I played that monstrosity.

Talk about a waste of my time.

:(

Oh, and, thanks Aura.

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:33 am
by Gumaster
Xybaro wrote:
Aura wrote: There was a project to adapt the scifi short story Dandelion Girl into a VN last year. DG was written 1961 and is an acclaimed story, one of the more famous short stories ever written. So okay, technically this would be at least on the way to something like what I'm envisioning here right? However, the people who adapted it tampered with the script, adding animeisms, references and shit, all but wrecking the sublime original (in my opinion). Add the animesque character art and yeah... you get the idea. It basically underlines why I think the current state of visual novel as a medium is "fubar".
I played that monstrosity.

Talk about a waste of my time.
Really? I didn't think it was that bad...the art wasn't too animeesque, I felt it was pretty simple and fit well with the story; although I do think the script was tampered with a bit too much. What exactly do you mean by animeisms?

That aside...it's a few years too late for KS to be my first, although it is pretty easy to recommend it to others, since there's no need for an english patch, etc.

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:46 pm
by Pumpkineat3r
Fate Stay Night and Yume Miru Kusuri seem to be the two most common first VNs (the former was mine). Any of the three would get the player off to a good start.

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:04 pm
by neumanproductions
Pumpkineat3r wrote:Yume Miru Kusuri
Just started that one recently and went down the Aeka path. I almost feel like not taking the others because of how it affected me. In a good sense, for I identify as being the guy that would get mad about someone being treated the way she was. I would revolt like Kouhei in that last scene and imagined everything happening as if I was the one in his place.
That is what a truely great VN has the power to do. I feel like KS will be one of those. I already got drawn in from Act 1 so it's all up to you Devs to finish with a strong middle and end. Make me proud to call you guys my first. :D

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 4:19 am
by G3n0c1de
neumanproductions wrote:
Pumpkineat3r wrote:Yume Miru Kusuri
Just started that one recently and went down the Aeka path.
I do hope you finish the other two paths. The path satisfaction from Aeka's path is definitely the confrontation scene. Nekoko's path is a lot of fun, and the end is really sweet. Mizuki's path is CRAZY, and the end will give you diabetes. In my opinion, these two are (slightly) better than the Aeka path.

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:00 am
by Pumpkineat3r
neumanproductions wrote:
Pumpkineat3r wrote:Yume Miru Kusuri
Just started that one recently and went down the Aeka path.
I felt like the game railroads the player down that path. Unless you're specifically aiming for another one (generally meaning it's not your first run), you'll probably get her. I would encourage you to do Mizuki and Nekoko in that order. Mizuki has the best character song, and her route is full of good porn; Nekoko is god-tier, and the best way to top off your YMK experience, in my expert opinion.

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:58 am
by cemex
I guess you could say that KS has encouraged me to pursue other visual novels. I've heard that Koihime Musou (it's not the best title out there but I want to check it out) has been licensed so I plan to get my hands on a copy of it now

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:25 pm
by Arias
Pumpkineat3r wrote:
neumanproductions wrote:
Pumpkineat3r wrote:Yume Miru Kusuri
Just started that one recently and went down the Aeka path.
I felt like the game railroads the player down that path. Unless you're specifically aiming for another one (generally meaning it's not your first run), you'll probably get her. I would encourage you to do Mizuki and Nekoko in that order. Mizuki has the best character song, and her route is full of good porn; Nekoko is god-tier, and the best way to top off your YMK experience, in my expert opinion.
Nekoko is the canon anyways.

Back onto subject. I had played only one other visual novel before KS and its writing was horribad. KS actually got me to try out other visual novels instead of thinking they were all crap, even if that is mostly true for the ones I have read.

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:39 pm
by Wrench Wench
Well after this I played through FS/N

Three things came of it.

My partner screamed "what the fuck Japan?" repeatedly on discovering they turned King Arthur into a moeblob.

I screamed "what the fuck Japan?" when she said she had an overly developed body but looked like a marshmallow.

And we both fell in love with that quiet noble moeblob king.

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:10 pm
by Xybaro
Wrench Wench wrote:Well after this I played through FS/N

Three things came of it.

My partner screamed "what the fuck Japan?" repeatedly on discovering they turned King Arthur into a moeblob.

I screamed "what the fuck Japan?" when she said she had an overly developed body but looked like a marshmallow.

And we both fell in love with that quiet noble moeblob king.
I remember my first time playing F/SN

Unfortunately, it's been my only time. Had to uninstall, haven't gotten back yet :(

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:38 pm
by Wrench Wench
Xybaro wrote:
Wrench Wench wrote:Well after this I played through FS/N

Three things came of it.

My partner screamed "what the fuck Japan?" repeatedly on discovering they turned King Arthur into a moeblob.

I screamed "what the fuck Japan?" when she said she had an overly developed body but looked like a marshmallow.

And we both fell in love with that quiet noble moeblob king.
I remember my first time playing F/SN

Unfortunately, it's been my only time. Had to uninstall, haven't gotten back yet :(
Well I just took it a bit personally when she said her body was overdeveloped. The girl was a walking pillow. I have more muscle in my finger than she does in her entire body!
My thigh is probably as thick as her fucking waist!

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:04 am
by Smoku
She's the ideal woman! I prefer this version a lot from the real Arthur legends. In my world, Arthur WAS a sexy woman and that's final.

A-Anyway... I only played little stuff before KS. then I turned to the big ones. just completed every little thing in F/SN and then I'll move on to wind, a breath of heart and ever 17

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:07 am
by Wrench Wench
Smoku wrote:She's the ideal woman! I prefer this version a lot from the real Arthur legends. In my world, Arthur WAS a sexy woman and that's final.

A-Anyway... I only played little stuff before KS. then I turned to the big ones. just completed every little thing in F/SN and then I'll move on to wind, a breath of heart and ever 17
Well she's still a little girl physically. But other than that she is pretty amazing.

Re: Is katawa Shoujo the gateway drug of visual novels?

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:13 am
by Medrex
Wrench Wench wrote: I screamed "what the fuck Japan?" when she said she had an overly developed body but looked like a marshmallow.
That really put me off at the time. I read it. I looked at her and was like "no... your not... your really, really not. I can't see any muscle ANYWHERE" O.o

Snow Sakura was my first VN, then i moved onto Ever17, came across KS, then Yume Miru Kusuri and I've recently finished all the endings for F/SN. Working on getting all the tiger dojos now for the funnies. Saber King Arthur is much more epic than normal king Arthur.