Piano Sheet Music?

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by saber2th » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:04 am

It's great to see people still transcribing sheet musics from the game! Can't wait to try them out.
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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by Wormy » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:19 pm

saber2th wrote:It's great to see people still transcribing sheet musics from the game! Can't wait to try them out.
It is great. I've been reading through KS again and subsequently mentally destroying myself in the process. I play my own transcription of Painful History almost every day because it shelters so much emotion for me.

With that said, there' s a simple error I overlooked in my sheet music, but it's very easy to pencil in or make a mental note to fix it. I haven't bothered to re-upload the fixed sheets for this reason and the fact that it would inconvenience many people by breaking the current link. In the sixth measure, there's a major third where it should be a single note, making for some icky dissonance. In said measure and its repeats, simply cross out the F flat accompanying the A flat.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by bpgbcg » Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:50 am

Wormy wrote:In the sixth measure, there's a major third where it should be a single note, making for some icky dissonance. In said measure and its repeats, simply cross out the F flat accompanying the A flat.
I'm not too sure about this myself.

I have the exact same note in my Painful History transcription (which was not based on the existing ones in any way), so we either made the same mistake completely coincidentally or the note is actually supposed to be there. Listening to PH again it definitely seems like it's there at least to me (subtle, though).

Also, PH doesn't exactly shy away from any sort of dissonance (e.g. measure 12), especially given that much of it seems to be pedaled and thus several of the sequences of notes will become chords.

Although, looking at your transcription, it definitely has fewer dissonances in general than mine, so maybe that's just a stylistic thing. I tend to like stuff like impressionist music and maybe that's just leaking through into how I envision PH sounding. But even yours has the occasional passing dissonance (measure 36, F flat on the 2nd 8th note vs E flat in the bass) so I'm not really sure that the measure 6 F flat is the biggest deal.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts, obviously take them or leave them as you please; after all, it's your transcription :)

EDIT: I somehow put PF to stand for Painful History. Dammit, starcraft...
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Piano music for the KS soundtrack; I've done a few transcriptions which are on page 43 of that thread. Also, I wrote a musical theme for Scissorlips' amazing Suzu pseudo-route, which I then recorded here.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by Wormy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:44 am

bpgbcg wrote:
Wormy wrote:In the sixth measure, there's a major third where it should be a single note, making for some icky dissonance. In said measure and its repeats, simply cross out the F flat accompanying the A flat.
I'm not too sure about this myself.

I have the exact same note in my Painful History transcription (which was not based on the existing ones in any way), so we either made the same mistake completely coincidentally or the note is actually supposed to be there. Listening to PF again it definitely seems like it's there at least to me (subtle, though).

Also, PF doesn't exactly shy away from any sort of dissonance (e.g. measure 12), especially given that much of it seems to be pedaled and thus several of the sequences of notes will become chords.

Although, looking at your transcription, it definitely has fewer dissonances in general than mine, so maybe that's just a stylistic thing. I tend to like stuff like impressionist music and maybe that's just leaking through into how I envision PF sounding. But even yours has the occasional passing dissonance (measure 36, F flat on the 2nd 8th note vs E flat in the bass) so I'm not really sure that the measure 6 F flat is the biggest deal.

Anyway, those are just my thoughts, obviously take them or leave them as you please; after all, it's your transcription :)
I don't believe measure 36 is a fair comparison as the dissonance is, in that case, asynchronous, which makes a pretty big difference in how it sounds.

Listening to it again, though, you might be right and we both must have written it that way for a reason. It's difficult to tell, because, yes, it is very subtle, especially given the color of the instrument in the original recording. In fact, listening to it now, I'm not entirely certain that some other intervals in that phrase aren't originally single notes or whether it's reverberation giving the illusion of intervals being played. I simply cannot tell for certain at this point. At the time of transcription I went with what "felt", all things considered, most right and idiomatic in a live setting. In performing it live, I observed this particular instance of dissonance to be far more apparent, which led me to rethink it. It sounds fine either way depending on what is desired so I think it's best to leave it, and the piece as a whole, to the player and how they feel at the time of performance. Even though I suspect this to be an error, I play it or don't play it, embellish or don't embellish, write a whole new song based on Painful History or don't, and so on depending on my mood. Musicians are entitled to creative liberties, and without input from the actual composer our transcriptions are just deduced guidelines anyway.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by bpgbcg » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:06 pm

You make a good point; I agree that there's not so much of a "right" or "wrong", especially without the composer's input.

Mostly I was reacting to your classification of it as removing an error rather than changing a suggestion, making it sound like the F flat is categorically incorrect to begin with, which I obviously didn't agree with given my transcription choices. I definitely see how it could go either way, and certainly if I were to perform it with the F flat I would put much less emphasis on it than on the other notes in the same chord.
Piano music for the KS soundtrack; I've done a few transcriptions which are on page 43 of that thread. Also, I wrote a musical theme for Scissorlips' amazing Suzu pseudo-route, which I then recorded here.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by Wormy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:25 pm

I agree that it's not really an error, but I labelled it so because sometimes it feels like an error.
bpgbcg wrote:making it sound like the F flat is categorically incorrect to begin with
I take it you mean the enharmonic E makes more sense given the structure of the piece. What makes you think this? I never took the time to analyze the "technically correct" function of every chord, (I just don't think it matters that much outside of academic partisan ideology) and instead went with what felt most natural and easiest to read to me, so I'm curious as to what you've observed in the composition.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by bpgbcg » Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:41 pm

Oh sorry, apparently my above post was pretty unclear.

I meant that in your original post, you used the term "error" to describe the note. Using that word (instead of "suggestion" or something) implies that playing that note is flat-out wrong instead of the more nuanced situation we've been discussing.

I was basically saying that my problem was more with the wording of your original post than its content; I can imagine interpretations where that note isn't good to have (and on the other hand it seems fine when I play it in my transcription).

(Which enharmonic equivalent is used doesn't matter at all to me, and it certainly wasn't what I was trying to say above. F flat will obviously make more sense in your transcription than E natural since you're using flats, and E will make more sense in mine.)
Piano music for the KS soundtrack; I've done a few transcriptions which are on page 43 of that thread. Also, I wrote a musical theme for Scissorlips' amazing Suzu pseudo-route, which I then recorded here.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by Wormy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:32 pm

bpgbcg wrote:Oh sorry, apparently my above post was pretty unclear.

I meant that in your original post, you used the term "error" to describe the note. Using that word (instead of "suggestion" or something) implies that playing that note is flat-out wrong instead of the more nuanced situation we've been discussing.

I was basically saying that my problem was more with the wording of your original post than its content; I can imagine interpretations where that note isn't good to have (and on the other hand it seems fine when I play it in my transcription).

(Which enharmonic equivalent is used doesn't matter at all to me, and it certainly wasn't what I was trying to say above. F flat will obviously make more sense in your transcription than E natural since you're using flats, and E will make more sense in mine.)
Oh alright. I thought you were saying your key signature was the more "correct" one given underlying chord functions since you said "categorically incorrect". I thought you meant "categorically" as in pertaining to a category and not "absolute". English is troublesome.

Calling it an uncertainty rather than an error would have been better.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by Nicol Armarfi » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:36 pm

Hey there,

Noticed you guys are having some trouble with Painful History. While I was looking at some of my old stuff just now I came across the original score for it, so I figured I'd drop it here for you.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by Wormy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:43 pm

Nicol Armarfi wrote:Hey there,

Noticed you guys are having some trouble with Painful History. While I was looking at some of my old stuff just now I came across the original score for it, so I figured I'd drop it here for you.

Link

Have fun!
Rad. Thanks a lot. Lots of stuff in here I wouldn't have been able to hear without being informed. What is the bottom staff, by the way? I must be missing something. I also know that you use finale, so would you mind providing a midi as well? It'd be nice not to have to re-notate it all and give each individual part a thorough listen.
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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by Nicol Armarfi » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:52 pm

Wormy wrote:What is the bottom staff, by the way? I must be missing something.
The bottom staff is just some extra pizzicato notes I put in at the last minute. It's not important as far as the musical structure goes, just adds a bit more texture.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by Wormy » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:56 pm

Nicol Armarfi wrote:
Wormy wrote:What is the bottom staff, by the way? I must be missing something.
The bottom staff is just some extra pizzicato notes I put in at the last minute. It's not important as far as the musical structure goes, just adds a bit more texture.
Interesting. I'll have to pay more attention to those.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by NuclearWaffles » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:22 pm

FstrthnU wrote:Animenz dumped Mediafire because one of his own files got flagged for copyright or something like that. So he moved all his sheet music to a different host.

http://sheethost.com/user/animenz
Wiosna is the only song he has on that site right now. I have his transcription for Concord, so I'll mirror that until he uploads the rest.

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by fusoya77 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:06 pm

I want to thank everyone who made KS possible, and everyone here who made the sheet music for this amazingly wonderful music. I wanted to know if anyone had the sheet music for Breathlessly, and Letting My Heart Speak, both links on page 40 are dead.

Thanks again,

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Re: Piano Sheet Music?

Post by bpgbcg » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:39 am

There's some discussion for this on the last page; basically Animenz moved his files but besides Wiosna they haven't been reuploaded by him.
Piano music for the KS soundtrack; I've done a few transcriptions which are on page 43 of that thread. Also, I wrote a musical theme for Scissorlips' amazing Suzu pseudo-route, which I then recorded here.

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