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Fans flanderizing

Post by Kota » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:20 pm

It appears to me that the fans are slowly flanderizing each character, reducing them slowly to certain base characteristics that we find easy to imagine, reducing any kind of depth they might have had. The process isn't complete, but it's slowly getting there.

Play the game again once in awhile, remember what they're actually like before they really turn into moeblobs and tsunderes.
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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by whiteflags » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:23 pm

Did you read a bunch of fan fiction and hate it?
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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by Ozymil » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:26 pm

From what we the fans perceive in Act 1, so far yes, the girls are somewhat flanderized. But as whiteflags stated, we've seen the girls in fanworks more than anything official released by the devs.
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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by stranger » Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:15 am

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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by Nightdragon » Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:37 am

Stupid sexy Flanders

oh, wait...

This thread isn't about that. Damn. Anyways, I'm guessing flanderizing means watering people down to just a few traits right? Because I can't find a proper definition of that word, that's what I'm assuming it means. Since nothing new has come out from the direct source (the devs), all we have left is fan-fiction and/or separate paths we (the fans) come up with. Just because that's all we seem to be doing, doesn't necessarily mean that's how we feel. Honestly, I feel very strongly for the girls, but I got to have something to keep me busy until the final game comes out. Don't just broadly assume something like that just because it seems like fact. Read some other threads, we can get deep if we truly want to.

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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by Seroanth » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:12 am

Nightdragon wrote:Stupid sexy Flanders

oh, wait...

This thread isn't about that. Damn. Anyways, I'm guessing flanderizing means watering people down to just a few traits right? Because I can't find a proper definition of that word, that's what I'm assuming it means. Since nothing new has come out from the direct source (the devs), all we have left is fan-fiction and/or separate paths we (the fans) come up with. Just because that's all we seem to be doing, doesn't necessarily mean that's how we feel. Honestly, I feel very strongly for the girls, but I got to have something to keep me busy until the final game comes out. Don't just broadly assume something like that just because it seems like fact. Read some other threads, we can get deep if we truly want to.

Flanderization

alt title(s): Flanderized; Flanderisation
The act of taking a single (often minor) aspect of a character and exaggerating it more and more until it's huge and cartoonish and almost entirely consumes the character. Sitcom characters are particularly susceptible to this, as are peripheral characters in shows with long runs.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... derization

I guess that's that, though I just got that from a quick google D:

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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by Nightdragon » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:24 am

Seroanth wrote:
Flanderization

alt title(s): Flanderized; Flanderisation
The act of taking a single (often minor) aspect of a character and exaggerating it more and more until it's huge and cartoonish and almost entirely consumes the character. Sitcom characters are particularly susceptible to this, as are peripheral characters in shows with long runs.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... derization

I guess that's that, though I just got that from a quick google D:
Oh damn. I tried dictionary.com, and it came up with nothing. I think it did come up with one of those other variations of the word, but without knowing the base word I was lost. The more you know....

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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by Deimos » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:05 am

Kota wrote:It appears to me that the fans are slowly flanderizing each character, reducing them slowly to certain base characteristics that we find easy to imagine, reducing any kind of depth they might have had. The process isn't complete, but it's slowly getting there.
The Flanderization that is done by the fandom is, in an abstract way, something really good. The more "we" simplify these characters the more the developers can suprise us at the end.
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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by ZystraL » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:13 am

Deimos wrote:
Kota wrote:It appears to me that the fans are slowly flanderizing each character, reducing them slowly to certain base characteristics that we find easy to imagine, reducing any kind of depth they might have had. The process isn't complete, but it's slowly getting there.
The Flanderization that is done by the fandom is, in an abstract way, something really good. The more "we" simplify these characters the more the developers can suprise us at the end.
My view exactly. By developing our own vision, the real product at the end could be more enjoyable than our own ideas.
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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by Seroanth » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:33 am

ZystraL wrote:
Deimos wrote:
Kota wrote:It appears to me that the fans are slowly flanderizing each character, reducing them slowly to certain base characteristics that we find easy to imagine, reducing any kind of depth they might have had. The process isn't complete, but it's slowly getting there.
The Flanderization that is done by the fandom is, in an abstract way, something really good. The more "we" simplify these characters the more the developers can suprise us at the end.
My view exactly. By developing our own vision, the real product at the end could be more enjoyable than our own ideas.
It's a bad thing when it's vice-versa though.

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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by ever17 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:27 pm

You'd have to be pretty simple minded to simplify the characters presented in something with as much depth as a visual novel. It's like the whole point of the genre to flesh out characters well (most commonly through romantic relationships of course).

Rin = awesome is an acceptable flanderization, however.

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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by Deimos » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:03 am

ever17 wrote:You'd have to be pretty simple minded to simplify the characters presented in something with as much depth as a visual novel. It's like the whole point of the genre to flesh out characters well (most commonly through romantic relationships of course).
Many VNs I have tried (only ones in English, though) had only minimalized characterisation and instead relied on archetypes (or stereotypes if you want to call them that). And considering how many people define Hanako as a moeblob or Emi as a loli, they are not simple minded rather than single-focussed on small portions of said characters that are widely acknowledged archetypes of the genre.
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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by delta » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:48 pm

ever17 wrote:You'd have to be pretty simple minded to simplify the characters presented in something with as much depth as a visual novel.
I take it you never met the TYPE-MOON fandom.
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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by EmP|ty » Wed Sep 23, 2009 2:04 pm

delta wrote:
ever17 wrote:You'd have to be pretty simple minded to simplify the characters presented in something with as much depth as a visual novel.
I take it you never met the TYPE-MOON fandom.

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Re: Fans flanderizing

Post by -abscess » Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:12 pm

EmP|ty wrote:
delta wrote:
ever17 wrote:You'd have to be pretty simple minded to simplify the characters presented in something with as much depth as a visual novel.
I take it you never met the TYPE-MOON fandom.
I gotta quote this man for truth.
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