Your First Playthrough

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Whos Ending Did You Get On Your First Playthrough of KS?

Emi
656
42%
Hanako
347
22%
Lilly
144
9%
Rin
116
7%
Shizune
133
8%
Kenji
183
12%
 
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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by kosherbacon » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:08 am

"She was cute" definitely has no change on the outcome.

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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Quidoo » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:21 am

kosherbacon wrote:"She was cute" definitely has no change on the outcome.
What do you mean?
Saying "She was cute" gives you an extra Hanako/Lilly point. Not doing so is neutral.
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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Warwick » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:02 pm

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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Notguest » Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:08 pm

Notguest wrote:Those three don't guarantee you anything. They just give you the option of continuing the Hanako/Lilly path later on.

You can say Hanako is cute, play Risk defensively, and ask about the library, and still end up with Shizune if you want.

Sorry, I was wrong. If you ask about the library and also play defensively, you won't have enough shizune points.
It's been a while since I played and I forgot the exact number of choices at the beginning.

Either asking about the library or playing defensively is fine though.

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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by kosherbacon » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:05 pm

Quidoo wrote:
kosherbacon wrote:"She was cute" definitely has no change on the outcome.
What do you mean?
Saying "She was cute" gives you an extra Hanako/Lilly point. Not doing so is neutral.
What I meant is that you can still get Lilly/Hanako even if you say "She wasn't cute." On my first playthrough I also ended up going that way even playing risk agressively IIRC.

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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Quidoo » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:09 pm

kosherbacon wrote:
Quidoo wrote:
kosherbacon wrote:"She was cute" definitely has no change on the outcome.
What do you mean?
Saying "She was cute" gives you an extra Hanako/Lilly point. Not doing so is neutral.
What I meant is that you can still get Lilly/Hanako even if you say "She wasn't cute." On my first playthrough I also ended up going that way even playing risk agressively IIRC.
Yes, but all of the choices are as significant as each other. The 'She was cute' answer could have a pretty large effect on the outcome depending on other choices that were previously made.
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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by EternalLurker » Sat Dec 19, 2009 9:37 pm

Yeah, "She wasn't cute" losing you a potential Lilly point has always irritated me. Considering Hanako unattractive shouldn't have any effect on whether or not you like Lilly, as long as you're still being friendly to her. I don't have to think Hanako's cute to be nice to her. (-.-)

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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Mikage-sama » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:10 pm

I just picked what I thought Hisao would say and ended up with Commander Manlyman.
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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by sonnysonny » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:29 pm

You are Hisao so picking what you think Hisao would say means that you acted like yourself...
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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Aura » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:34 pm

EternalLurker wrote:Yeah, "She wasn't cute" losing you a potential Lilly point has always irritated me. Considering Hanako unattractive shouldn't have any effect on whether or not you like Lilly, as long as you're still being friendly to her. I don't have to think Hanako's cute to be nice to her. (-.-)
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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Deimos » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:49 pm

EternalLurker wrote:Yeah, "She wasn't cute" losing you a potential Lilly point has always irritated me. Considering Hanako unattractive shouldn't have any effect on whether or not you like Lilly, as long as you're still being friendly to her. I don't have to think Hanako's cute to be nice to her. (-.-)
Hisao's comment about Hanako being cute does have something to do with becoming closer to Lilly. At this point in the game "cute" refers to her attractiveness but it has also a maternal ring to it which can be developped into a parallel of Lilly's relationship with Hanako.

Anyway, it is just a first impression and sparks/indicates interest on Hisao's part to further involve himself with both Hanako and Lilly. In flowerchild's scenario her cuteness is exaggerated and one of the things that probably fascinate Hisao and the player.
Yet, Lilly's story also needs Hanako as a link between Hisao and Lilly who otherwise would have no big incentive to get to know each other, seeing as they are from two very different classes and would not be very likely to have positive interaction outside of class whereas Rin has the art club and Emi has supervising Hisao's jogging, respectively.


On one hand that relatively tame and minor decision can be the foundation to pursue Hanako but on the other hand it can be an subtle foreshadowing that Hisao possesses nurturing qualities that are not unlike Lilly's.


Or, I am probably reading too much into it ... again. :roll:
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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Captain Niggawatts » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:34 pm

Deimos wrote:
EternalLurker wrote:Yeah, "She wasn't cute" losing you a potential Lilly point has always irritated me. Considering Hanako unattractive shouldn't have any effect on whether or not you like Lilly, as long as you're still being friendly to her. I don't have to think Hanako's cute to be nice to her. (-.-)
Hisao's comment about Hanako being cute does have something to do with becoming closer to Lilly. At this point in the game "cute" refers to her attractiveness but it has also a maternal ring to it which can be developped into a parallel of Lilly's relationship with Hanako.

Anyway, it is just a first impression and sparks/indicates interest on Hisao's part to further involve himself with both Hanako and Lilly. In flowerchild's scenario her cuteness is exaggerated and one of the things that probably fascinate Hisao and the player.
Yet, Lilly's story also needs Hanako as a link between Hisao and Lilly who otherwise would have no big incentive to get to know each other, seeing as they are from two very different classes and would not be very likely to have positive interaction outside of class whereas Rin has the art club and Emi has supervising Hisao's jogging, respectively.


On one hand that relatively tame and minor decision can be the foundation to pursue Hanako but on the other hand it can be an subtle foreshadowing that Hisao possesses nurturing qualities that are not unlike Lilly's.


Or, I am probably reading too much into it ... again. :roll:
Plus there's the whole, people don't like people who diss their friends.

And Lilly is blind, so she hears EEEEVVVERRRYYYYTHHIIINNNGGG.
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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Bara » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:01 am

Captain Niggawatts wrote:And Lilly is blind, so she hears EEEEVVVERRRYYYYTHHIIINNNGGG.
So your saying, "Blind as a bat = Ears like a bat."? :wink:

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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by G3n0c1de » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:04 am

Bara wrote:So your saying, "Blind as a bat = Ears like a bat."? :wink:
While her hearing doesn't let her sense what is in front of her (though human echolocation for the blind actually seems like a neat concept), it is her main way of sensing what is going on in her environment. Without vision, Lilly needs to rely on her hearing in order to go through life. I've also heard that when people lose a sense, the others get stronger in order to compensate. This is typically said of people who go blind, and develop sensitive hearing. This may have happened to Lilly, but even if it didn't hearing is still her most important sense.
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Re: Your First Playthrough

Post by Quidoo » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:14 am

G3n0c1de wrote:
Bara wrote:So your saying, "Blind as a bat = Ears like a bat."? :wink:
While her hearing doesn't let her sense what is in front of her (though human echolocation for the blind actually seems like a neat concept), it is her main way of sensing what is going on in her environment. Without vision, Lilly needs to rely on her hearing in order to go through life. I've also heard that when people lose a sense, the others get stronger in order to compensate. This is typically said of people who go blind, and develop sensitive hearing. This may have happened to Lilly, but even if it didn't hearing is still her most important sense.
There are a couple of blind people who can actually use echolocation, using a series of very fast clicking noises with their tongues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobuBc2GO0o
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