Is Shizune rich?

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Is Shizune rich?

Post by Teclo » Wed May 27, 2009 6:43 pm

Just a silly in-universe question. Is Shizune's family rich and do they send her a lot of money? Or does she just have a part-time job? It took a while for it to sink in, but she seems to have almost limitless money. She keeps buying three portions of everything - well, apart from the times she wriggles out of it somehow - and will generally treat people to all sorts of things. I mean, even though she's going to be 16-18, she might as well be 10 as far as income goes since she doesn't seem to have time for a part-time job.
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by Spoon » Wed May 27, 2009 6:51 pm

You know, that would make sense. Or maybe it's one of those things where she tries to use her actions (like buying things) to directly talk to someone instead of using a translator. Hmm.
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by Bara » Wed May 27, 2009 6:55 pm

Teclo wrote:Just a silly in-universe question. Is Shizune's family rich and do they send her a lot of money? Or does she just have a part-time job? It took a while for it to sink in, but she seems to have almost limitless money. She keeps buying three portions of everything - well, apart from the times she wriggles out of it somehow - and will generally treat people to all sorts of things. I mean, even though she's going to be 16-18, she might as well be 10 as far as income goes since she doesn't seem to have time for a part-time job.
Embezzelment of Student Council funds? Only 2 people in the Student Council so it could be easy to do. I mean, is Misha going to narc on her when she is also benfiting from it? :lol:

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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by Caesius » Wed May 27, 2009 6:57 pm

Everyone who goes to Yamaku probably has parents who are at least upper-middle class, when you think about it.
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by SirAkbar » Wed May 27, 2009 6:59 pm

I got the "rich girl" impression of her as well.

I thought Hisao was rather ungentlemanly for letting himself be payed for more than once like that, though.

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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by janz » Wed May 27, 2009 7:54 pm

I think it's part of Japanese culture which is male always before female. I read many stories on how Japanese educate kids to be like this. Even in the US, Japanese girls tend to trail behind and holding doors open for males. I'm studying in a university in the US. Several times I myself did hold doors for Japanese girls, then they just say something like "go ahead" or "you go first". It's kind strange to me, but understandable.

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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by Teclo » Wed May 27, 2009 8:16 pm

Hmm, that's interesting. I would have expected Japanese girls to be the least like "oh no, you go ahead" because their society seems to be very old fashioned, so they'd accept that kind of behaviour. English girls will generally not notice you're holding the door open or will react in the way you described the Japanese girls as doing; that's because being so chivalrous seems a little silly nowadays and, what's more, it can be taken as quite patronising.
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by Fronzel » Wed May 27, 2009 8:24 pm

The things she buys don't cost very much, do they? Given she's away at a boarding school, I wouldn't be surprised if her parents allow her a certain amount of money each month to spend on things like that.

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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by Spoon » Wed May 27, 2009 8:32 pm

SirAkbar wrote:I thought Hisao was rather ungentlemanly for letting himself be payed for more than once like that, though.
It's a hint to her hidden dominatrix persona. You just know she's into whips, chains, and making people scream.
Well, not screaming, but you know.
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by abscess » Wed May 27, 2009 8:42 pm

Teclo wrote:Hmm, that's interesting. I would have expected Japanese girls to be the least like "oh no, you go ahead" because their society seems to be very old fashioned, so they'd accept that kind of behaviour. English girls will generally not notice you're holding the door open or will react in the way you described the Japanese girls as doing; that's because being so chivalrous seems a little silly nowadays and, what's more, it can be taken as quite patronising.
Interesting view. A good chunk the men from my country have at least the decency to open a door to women or elder people and their response is either indifference or just a plain "thanks", but when in the US, and this has happened to me a lot after opening the door to someone else, they look at me as if I did something strange and some other thank me while smiling a lot. I find that odd.
As for the japanese girls, I also find that odd. But yeah, that's mostly cultural shock perhaps (or whatev's it's called).
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SirAkbar wrote:I thought Hisao was rather ungentlemanly for letting himself be payed for more than once like that, though.
It's a hint to her hidden dominatrix persona. You just know she's into whips, chains, and making people scream.
Well, not screaming, but you know.
I wouldn't go as far as to say that those are hints of her dominatrix persona, but maybe she's just so used to leading that she doesn't even notice anymore. Probably if Hisao said something like "it's fine, I'll pay for mine" she could feel somewhat confounded because of that, and if she's easy to piss off, maybe even angry. The other choice could be that she was just paying for his meals just to convince him enter the Council, after that she may ask him to pay her :lol:
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by Teclo » Thu May 28, 2009 1:25 pm

Fronzel wrote:The things she buys don't cost very much, do they? Given she's away at a boarding school, I wouldn't be surprised if her parents allow her a certain amount of money each month to spend on things like that.
You'd be surprised how quickly it all adds up. She seems to buy 3 times the amount of stuff at least once a day. Even on a modest part-time job wage, that'll clear you out before you knew it. I mean, let's say I went to a pub and bought a meal (this is considered a pretty cheap option here) but then I also bought one for two of my friends, and a pint each. That's £21 or about $35 gone in one go. Doing that once a day, for a week, would cost me £147 or about £250. Then again, now that I think of it, the cakes that she bought (or at least, was going to buy before she ran away) were meant to be incredibly small and not at all filling. I guess when I do her route again I'll pay extra attention to exactly what it is that she buys.
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by Validus Razgriz » Thu May 28, 2009 9:35 pm

abscess wrote:
Teclo wrote:Hmm, that's interesting. I would have expected Japanese girls to be the least like "oh no, you go ahead" because their society seems to be very old fashioned, so they'd accept that kind of behaviour. English girls will generally not notice you're holding the door open or will react in the way you described the Japanese girls as doing; that's because being so chivalrous seems a little silly nowadays and, what's more, it can be taken as quite patronising.
Interesting view. A good chunk the men from my country have at least the decency to open a door to women or elder people and their response is either indifference or just a plain "thanks", but when in the US, and this has happened to me a lot after opening the door to someone else, they look at me as if I did something strange and some other thank me while smiling a lot. I find that odd.
As for the japanese girls, I also find that odd. But yeah, that's mostly cultural shock perhaps (or whatev's it's called).
Hmm, that's interesting. I must be weird. I'm from the American Midwest, and I hold doors open all the time for people, male and female, young and old. Generally I just get a quick thanks when I do it. I haven't had anyone look at me funny for holding open a door for them.

Then again, it might be because I live in a rural area. I live outside of any city limits, and most of the towns in my general area are less then 10,000 people. The closest town to me has a population of 50.
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by toast » Thu May 28, 2009 10:43 pm

Validus Razgriz wrote: Then again, it might be because I live in a rural area. I live outside of any city limits, and most of the towns in my general area are less then 10,000 people. The closest town to me has a population of 50.
yeah dude, nobody does that shit in the city anymore.
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by Validus Razgriz » Thu May 28, 2009 11:03 pm

toast wrote:
Validus Razgriz wrote: Then again, it might be because I live in a rural area. I live outside of any city limits, and most of the towns in my general area are less then 10,000 people. The closest town to me has a population of 50.
yeah dude, nobody does that shit in the city anymore.
I think it depends on what city you're talking about. I go to Minneapolis/St. Paul all the time, and they act pretty much the same when I hold open doors.
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Re: Is Shizune rich?

Post by atat » Thu May 28, 2009 11:18 pm

First: Shizune would totally want Hisao to scream. I personally think it would be some sort of thing similar to the end of 'the replacements 'where brian murhphy celebrates @ the end, by encouraging the crowd to roar..

Second: I hold doors open for people all the time, and I expect likewise, from woman or men, just not elderly or kids.
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