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This is part of why people in the UK don't want to use DSM-V.

I've just realised I've failed to give my opinion on the matter, just attempted to clarify what PDD-NOS is. Well, here goes.

In my opinion: it doesn't matter. We can associate whatever mental disorder we like with Rin's behaviour, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just... Rin. Rin is Rin, and there's no need to label Rin with anything other than... Rin.

Linkarena wrote:I've just realised I've failed to give my opinion on the matter, just attempted to clarify what PDD-NOS is. Well, here goes.

In my opinion: it doesn't matter. We can associate whatever mental disorder we like with Rin's behaviour, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just... Rin. Rin is Rin, and there's no need to label Rin with anything other than... Rin.

You never what the fuck "PDD-NOS" is. When I see an acronym like that I don't think autism. So can you please say what the hell "PDD-NOS" even means?

Steinherz wrote:You never what the fuck "PDD-NOS" is. When I see an acronym like that I don't think autism. So can you please say what the hell "PDD-NOS" even means?

PDD-NOS means "pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified". I don't see how the actual term will help you though, and I've already tried to explain what it is. So, whatever, sorry mate.
EDIT: Just realised I'd ALSO said everything in this post previously. Did you even read the earlier posts on the thread?

In my opinion: it doesn't matter. We can associate whatever mental disorder we like with Rin's behaviour, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just... Rin. Rin is Rin, and there's no need to label Rin with anything other than... Rin.

I feel defining her exact problem and blaming it on a mental illness of any kind actually does a disservice to the character. At that point you're saying, "She's weird because..." rather than accepting that she is just who she is.

Disclaimer: Not the original creator of her route, nor am I aware of any comments made by the author about her regarding this matter.

I almost feel like that was the point of her route, really. Acceptance, both of yourself and what she is, is a theme all throughout KS, but in Rin's route especially.Most of Hisao's missteps (if I remember correctly) come from trying to put Rin into a box or label her. Most of the choices that move you closer to her GE are you accepting who you are, and who she is, even in absence of understanding the root causes. This is the point of the scene in which you speak to Mutou earlier in the game, and several scenes throughout the various routes call to this. Hisao's awkwardness with Lilly and him discussing how something looks.

Perhaps, of course, I am looking too deeply into the issue. But, that said, I agree with Oddball. There is no understanding Rin. Down that path lies madness.

Oddball wrote:

In my opinion: it doesn't matter. We can associate whatever mental disorder we like with Rin's behaviour, but that doesn't change the fact that she's just... Rin. Rin is Rin, and there's no need to label Rin with anything other than... Rin.

I feel defining her exact problem and blaming it on a mental illness of any kind actually does a disservice to the character. At that point you're saying, "She's weird because..." rather than accepting that she is just who she is.

Broomhead wrote:I almost feel like that was the point of her route, really. [...]
Perhaps, of course, I am looking too deeply into the issue. But, that said, I agree with Oddball. There is no understanding Rin. Down that path lies madness.

This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labels

Munchenhausen wrote:This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labels

Which is exactly the problem that causes Hisao to be such an ass in her route.

Munchenhausen wrote:This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labels

Maybe you should become a science teac- Oh. Right.

Oddball wrote:I feel defining her exact problem and blaming it on a mental illness of any kind actually does a disservice to the character. At that point you're saying, "She's weird because..." rather than accepting that she is just who she is.

This is wisdom.

Broomhead wrote:

Munchenhausen wrote:This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labels

Maybe you should become a science teac- Oh. Right.

Alas, the forklift has me now.

Guys, Rin's medical problem isn't autism. It's that she's missing arms.

I know, I know, I'm a genius. No need to thank me for clearing that up.

Munchenhausen wrote:

Broomhead wrote:

Munchenhausen wrote:This may explain why I didn't like her I can't stand it when things don't have definitive explanations or labels

Maybe you should become a science teac- Oh. Right.

Alas, the forklift has me now.

It's all right, you're still a heavy lifter.

I didnt intend for what I said to cause so much controversy. The reason I said Rin definitely has PDD-NOS is because despite the fact that she has a lot of Autistic traits, she is an individual and cant be fitted into this mold of "Autistic". If you want to know more about what else she might have, look up Caetextia. Because to me, she has a more right brained type of Caetexia.

Mythic wrote:Because to me, she has a more right brained type of Caetexia.

To me, she is Rin. I'm just going to stick by my argument that Rin is Rin and that labeling her completely defeats the purpose of her character and her route.